Oregon paper to obama: Stay away after gun talk!

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  1. Steady Pie

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    Give me liberty or give me death.

    Don't budge an inch. End Reagan's totalitarian grandfathering of full auto weapons. Abolish the NFA. Abolish the 68' gun control act. No federal intervention at all - not even tariffs on gun imports. Complete and utter liberty at the federal level.

    Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Don't become like Australia. Don't let the thugs in the cities dictate policy for rural areas.
     
  2. Lee S

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    This is fairly simple. This newspaper is from the town that the tragedy happened. It represents the sentiments of the people of that town. If you have never been to Roseburg, know the people of Roseburg, or understand the culture of Roseburg, then you may be missing something. That is why this news article is more relevent than something written by some guy wearing a polo shirt in an office in the middle of a gigantic city 3000 miles away who never even heard about Roseburg until he felt his press credentials made him an expert on that town. I thought that was pretty self-evident.
     
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    What about something like this?

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/30/newtown-gun-control-school-safety/1878169/
    Or this from the Editorials of the Newtown Bee.

    http://newtownbee.com/news/editorial-ink-drops/2013/01/11/will-newtown-make-difference/4837

     
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    Yeah that's it. Cut the size of our military down to decrease violence in America. Next time you should try thinking ahead. The only goal that would accomplish, is destruction.

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    Here's my request.

    Take all of the guns out of one region of the U/SA. All that want guns out, move to that region. We'll keep the military and armed police out of there. The cops can carry around clubs, tasers, and mace.

    What say you?
     
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    The problem is, in the eyes of many (on both sides) there is ZERO room between the extremes.
     
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    No one claimed the Beacon represents the whole of Oregon. Sheesh. Let me try one - Obama doesn't represent the whole populace of Roseburg.
    Here's what two families have said -

    As the Daily Mail reported, the Fitzgeralds aren’t the ones to come out against additional gun control measures, as the family of Quinn Cooper, 18, who was killed during the attack at Umpqua College, also spoke out against using the incident to advance gun control.

    “We need to be able to protect ourselves as a community and as a nation,” the Cooper family said in a statement released after the shooting. “Please don’t let this horrible act of insanity become about who should or shouldn’t have a gun.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-amendment-none-of-us-have-changed-our-minds/

    Democrats never let a tragedy go to waste when there are political points to be made.
     
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    Gimme a damn break. Do you have any common sense about what the military even does? They go to war and defend America against foreign enemies. If you don't like it, move the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of here.
     
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    Freedom of speech. Are you done crying yet? I wouldn't want that ignorant piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) in my town either.
     
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    But....but.....but Alucard is from Arizona and knows about everything because obama, that's why.
     
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    If he'd go for purposes other than an agenda then maybe he'd be supported. These people would rather be left alone for that very reason.
     
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    I don't think that has anything to do with Roseburg. Furthermore, gun control would not have stopped the Newtown massacre. It wouldn't have stopped Columbine. It wouldn't have stopped the Va Tech shooting. It wouldn't have stopped the Roseburg shooting. Face it man, gun control is nothing more than words on a piece of paper. Words on a piece of paper won't stop someone that cares nothing for the law. Let that sink in.
     
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    Well it's beginning to bite them in their ass, so let them continue.
     
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    really what you mean is let it sink because what you say is incorrect.

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    not true, we all know better

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    arrogance like yours is just not helping. the idea that you would even suppose you can tell others to leave shows how off kilter you are. tolerance is our way of life...civics101
     
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    The USA Today story has infinitely less relevence to the Newtown massacre than the story from the Newtown Bee. I believe the Newtown Bee story better reflects the sentiments of the people of Newtown. Of course, the whole Sandy Hook Elementary story has almost nothing to do with Roseburg Oregon and it is not possible to instill the values and cultures of Newtown onto the people of Roseburg. With that being said, if the people of Newtown want the President to come to their city, then the President should go. If the people of Roseburg do not want the President to come to their town, then the President shouldn't go. Haven't the people f Roseburg suffered enough already?
     
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    Legally carrying is a "violent" action? That's a NEW one. That's what we call preparedness. When you carry mace while camping, is that a violent action or do you just not want all the creepy crawlies all over your ass and getting Lime disease or something. Self-defense is a priority and the one constant in all of these cases is that the perpetrator is able to take advantage of a defenseless public.

    In fact, I think that's the case in all crimes. One is stronger than the other, the stronger person uses force to wrongfully take that which doesn't belong to him. The answer to crime then, is just like with MAD. Give every person a deterrent. It doesn't even have to be a gun, just enough to equal out the force.
    What we do know is that expecting those that want to commit evil to obey the law is like asking the wolf not to devour the chickens he's charged with guarding.
     
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    I'm sure they really got off on knowing that they got a mention in Wing Nut Daily!
     
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    Hooray for the little Roseburg Beacon. Somebody needs to tell Obama to quit sticking his nose into people's rights to bear firearms and just shut up about it. If Obama wants to do something "presidential" he can go have it out with Putin. That ought to keep him busy.
     
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    The Roseburg Beacon is most certainly in print.

    I live in Roseburg. For years, our main paper was The News Review. The Roseburg Beacon was established only a few years ago by a former Douglas County Commissioner by the name of Marilyn Kittleman and her campaign manager David Jaques. They felt (as many do in Douglas County) that The News Review was too left leaning and did not provide honest reporting (specifically during Kittleman's term as County Commissioner). Since the Beacon's creation, it has become very popular and has became a major competition for The News Review.

    Jaques and Kittleman could be considered by some as fairly extreme right wing....though I have seen many further right. I do not like Jagues, but I liked Kittleman during her term as CC....though she does not really know when to keep her mouth shut.

    Douglas County is about 75% conservative. While The Beacon does not speak for all of Douglas County, I would agree that Obama will not receive a warm welcome here. He most certainly will not be welcome if he uses this trip to issue another campaign speech or to talk about gun control.
     
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    So some right-wing nut owns a local newspaper which looks like it only runs "news" about the country commission runs an anti-Obama rant?

    Why is this a news story? Oh yeah, it's WND... nevermind.

    Hahahahahahaha, it doesn't even look lik the "Roseburg Beacon" is a real newspaper. It just looks like some website from a standard template was put up. The last "news" that was posted is from Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:39AM.

    To call it a "paper" is using the term VERY VERY lightly.

    I'm sure it has tens of viewers though! TENS! Buwahahahahaha....

    http://www.roseburgbeacon.com/

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    Everything gets politicised these days.. Because American politics operate at a Kindergarten level (lowest common denominator).
     
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    Good to see freedom of the press being attacked by some Lefty Liberals in this thread.

    Obama can fly on Air Force 1 any time to speak to the communities in his hometown of Chicago regarding the senseless murders from guns and other methods of violence that occur 52 weeks out of the year.

    He ain't got time for that, though.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that if you asked everyone in Roseburg, OR if they had heard of the "Roseburg Beacon," 99% of them would answer "No."

    But you can expect the anti-obamabots to treat this online newsletter about the county commission to be Roseburg's premier source of information.
     
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    Weird that the Oregon mass shooter fired up the school where Alek Skarlatos, on of the guys who stopped the Islamist attack on train a few weeks ago.

    Christian American hero helped thwart a Muslim terrorist train attack this summer in France.

    Chris Harper-Mercer put several Christians to death in an Umpqua classroom on Thursday, Oct. 1 for being Christian.

    Islamic State (a.k.a. ISIS, ISIL, and Daesh) claimed responsibility on Twitter for the killings Harper-Mercer carried out at Umpqua.

    http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris...s-pictures-photos-attack-influence-terrorism/

    In August Skarlatos, a devout Christian, helped to disarm Ayoub El-Khazzani, a Moroccan with ties to radical Islam, on a high-speed train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris. Skarlatos and his two American friends traveling with him received France's highest honor, the Legion d'Honneur, from French President François Hollande. Last month they were feted at the White House and the Pentagon. Skarlatos received the U.S. Army's Soldier's Medal.

    Skarlatos has publicly acknowledged that he is currently a student at Umpqua, near Roseburg, Ore., and that he was supposed to be attending classes there on Thursday when Harper-Mercer went on a bloody rampage.

    In a taped interview with Ellen DeGeneres on Thursday, Skarlatos said he was supposed to be in the building where Thursday's shooting took place.

    "I had classes in Snyder Hall," said Skarlatos. "It's a fairly small community college, the town in general, everybody knows each other. So with that many deceased, I mean everybody's going to know at least one person." [...]

    "I would have been there today if I didn't agree to do this show," he said. "I had classes picked out and everything."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ng-french-train-hero-alek-skarlatos/73202860/

    Al Shabaab did the same thing as Harper-Mercer did when it attacked a school in Kenya:

    For the record, there is a precedent here: Whenever Islamic terrorists raid large centers where Muslims and Christians are intermingled, they routinely separate Muslims from Christians, before massacring the latter.

    For example, last April in Kenya, gunmen from the Somali Islamic group, Al Shabaab—“the youth”—stormed Garissa University, singled out Christian students, and murdered them, some beheaded.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/o...er-is-standard-practice-among-islamic-jihadis

    He provides four other recent examples from Kenya:

    June 15, 2014: Approximately 50 militants from Al Shabaab went on a killing spree in Mpeketoni, a predominantly Christian town on Kenya’s coast. They chanted “Allahu Akbar,” killed whoever could not recite verses from the Koran, and went door-to-door asking residents their religion, killing those who answered “Christian.” More than 57 people were killed, including six children of church pastors.

    August 24, 2014: Al Shabaab abducted a group of traders near the island of Lamu. The militants eventually released three of them, because they were Muslims, but beheaded the fourth, a Christian.

    November 22, 2014: Al Shabaab attacked a bus and massacred 28 of its Christian passengers. Again, Muslim passengers were separated and left unharmed.

    December 2, 2014: Al Shabaab gunmen launched an early morning raid on quarry workers sleeping in their worksite tents near the city of Mandera, along the Somali border. Christians and Muslims were separated before the Christians, thirty-six of them, were beheaded or shot dead.

    http://www.raymondibrahim.com/musli...-you-muslim-or-christian-death-to-christians/

    Mercer’s MySpace [page] features only two connections, one of which is a man named Mahmoud Ali Ehsani. Ehsani published a photo album titled, “Classic – The Mujahideen Collection LOL,” featuring Islamic terrorists from several countries, including Palestine, Iran, and Pakistan, among others.

    One caption reads: “my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. (*)(*)(*)(*) israel. Kill the jews. jews are the only infidels.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...man-praising-islamic-terrorism-kill-the-jews/

    The IRA has a long history of cooperating with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and other Islamist groups.

    http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2009/04/ira_plo_history_cooperation.html
     

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