OREGON RESTAURANT: STIMULUS KEEPS PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED

People under 50 ARE dying.

Those who get hit hard by this get hit VERY hard. Like lung damage hard.

In fact there are reports from doctors of patients in their 20s and 30s stroking out because of the blood clots that are becoming more and more a part of this horror

Let's not forget that the doctor who discovered this thing in China...died from it...at 32

 

If you offer an employee his job back he loses his unemployment if he refuses.

FACT

If his original employer doesn't hire him back there is very little chance anyone will with 20% unemployment

 

Yes, I understand that, but in the HOME, it amounted to the same thing. Everyone got the same stuff, and the same amount of it (per person).

 

Of course people under 50 have died. What’s the ratio though? And how many that have were actually heathy without prior conditions? You’d sooner die in a car accident. Look at the math. And The Doctor in China probably died by far more sinister means.

The death rate total is now at .5%. People under 50 are only a small percentage of that. You’re talking extreme cases. Only a completely irrational person not in the group most susceptible, should be afraid of death. Those people would be too scared to swim in a pool or eat.

 

The death rate is as much as ten times what you claim

And there have been hundreds of deaths of people under 40.

More importantly, as many as 20% of infected persons ACROSS the board are sick enough to require hospitalization. That's serious...

I have a 30 yr old friend who got hit hard...and it is a motherFer. He never thought he was going to die...never went to the hospital but it KICKED HIS ASS...way beyond anything he had ever dealt with before.

 

I don't think they are genuinely afraid of dying from COVID19 ---- few people are truly that uninformed ---- I think it's a convenient excuse to stay home collecting unemployment and the extra $600/week bonus as long as they can.

They're taking advantage of the system, pure and simple. With a little virtue signaling about "stopping the spread" and a little fearmongering about "that one young person I heard of who died" thrown in for good measure, because admitting "I'm a lazy deadbeat" doesn't look so good.

 

Right at the very beginning even Republicans were saying THERE IS NO MORAL HAZARD WHEN DEALING WITH THIS THING

Which is what the poster above is claiming as a problem.

We are in the middle of a GLOBAL PANDEMIC

 

Im not talking the world. Just the US. Your friend is what’s called an outlier. Exceptions are NOT the rule. Olympic swimmers can drown. Do they often? Nope.

I know of over 4200k people where I work and we’ve had 3 cases with no serious illness. And our medical staff have reported 1 related death and lo and behold it was someone’s parent in their 80s with a prior heart condition. Sad but not unexpected. Obviously others could have died and haven’t reported it, but that’s our policy to provide a support system. So I truly doubt anyone would withhold information when it’s related to benefits.

 

That's not what you were talking about

"People were provided with food rations and other essentials"
People were not provided with anything and we had full employment during the war there weren't enough workers and one reason so many women entered the workforce.

 

Amazon and Walmart both hiring tens of thousands.

 

And millions are out of work

 

And here are jobs for tens of thousands of them from just TWO employers.

 

And back to the topic of the thread

Coronavirus Relief Often Pays Workers More Than Work
When combined with state benefits, weekly government payouts create incentives that employers say complicate efforts to reopen businesses

The stimulus measure means that in coming months many low-wage workers will avoid both significant harm to their finances and the potential health risks—and further virus spread—of returning to crowded workplaces. That money in consumers’ pockets in turn puts the U.S. economy on firmer footing to rebound once authorities allow businesses to reopen.

But enhanced benefits also create disincentives that might hamper efforts by employers to recall workers when
some states are trying to reopen their economies.

It is possible that Workers could ask their bosses to leave them on furlough so they can collect the larger payments while avoiding health risks. Employers, meanwhile, are in the position of asking workers to get back on the payroll, either so companies can reopen or the business can qualify for forgiveness of government loans....

..“Our interior-cleaning staff are going to have to come back on the payroll rather than making the equivalent of $23 an hour to stay home,” Mr. Hoffman said. Those workers earn about $13 an hour, which is above the state’s minimum wage. He will use the loan to pay them their regular wages, but will still ask them to not report to work.

..
Tracy Jackson, 50, of Nacogdoches, Texas, started receiving unemployment benefits after losing her job as a cook at a college. Her benefits total $1,200 every two weeks, almost twice what she would earn on the job.

She wants to return to work, but being stuck at home has given her time to reflect. The extra money she receives in unemployment benefits has made her conclude she had been underpaid at her previous job, earning $10.30 an hour after five years.

“I like the college, I really do,” she said. “But they’re going to have to come with more money. If they don’t, I’m not going to be there.”

..“The unemployment benefits are so generous that in many places workers are telling their bosses they’d rather be unemployed than return to their jobs,” said Sean Kennedy, executive vice president of public affairs at the National Restaurant Association. “It’s not that these workers are lazy, they’re just making the best economic decision for their families.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-relief-often-pays-workers-more-than-work-11588066200

 

Many people WERE provided with food rations. Not all, but many were. Hence the compulsory farming etc for those who'd lost incomes.

 

It's a "stimulus" you know.
What are you doing with your check? You better spend it or we will come take it back.