Part 15 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Did you REALLY say that lust was wrong ?!?!?!?!

 

2.2 billion Christians and you have the correct interpretation. Sounds delusional to me.

I know a lot of adulterous Christians then. You ever been guilty of the thought crime of lust?

 

Why can't god just make it clear in his book?

Why does he need someone like you, who makes him look silly, to give others the interpretation of his words?

Does god need communication lessons?

What makes you think that your interpretation is correct and Rev. Fred Phelps is not, or do you and the Rev. have the same interpretation?

It seems that you are just such a person as you can't even understand gods simple words that say clearly, in a manner that needs no interpretation, that god hardened Pharaoh's heart

So you are admitting that your "Lord" isn't smart enough to use the correct words that he meant, and that people like you and Rev. Fred Phelps are needed to fix his grammatical errors?

 

Truth. Mormons believe jesus is the messiah.
God sent a new revelation to mankind. The mormons are the new revelation. Christianity is manmade. Church dogma. You, yourself, have to misinterpret the bible to conform to the man made dogma. You, not believing the new revelation to mankind is a bad bad mistake for you.
Do you really think God hasn't spoken to man in 2000 yrs? Why would he not?

 

So the omniscient God doesn't know where we will spend eternity. So much for omniscience.

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And omniscient. He would not have to grieve for something he knew was going to happen according to his plan.

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You know he wears sheeps clothing.

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9-10 months you have to wait. And if it wasn't to hard, it will get answered.

 

The book of mormons is God latest revelation to mankind. Those who reject it are doomed to spend eternity in the pitfall of torment.

 

The only problem with interpretation is yours.

The meaning of the word "Adultery" is clear. If Jesus was meaning something else he would not have used the word ADULTERY.

Matt 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery" What do you suppose Jesus is referring to ? The 10 Commands perhaps ?

What does "You shall not commit adultery mean" ? Do not have sex with another mans wife. There is no doubt as to the meaning.

In the next sentence Matt 5:28 Jesus is talking about lusting after another mans wife similar to coveting referred to in Exodus.

The sin then is one of coveting thy neighbors wife. The word translated as "woman" in this passage was gyne which can be translated to mean either woman or wife.

Given that Jesus is talking about Adultery it does not take a rocked scientist to figure out Jesus was referring to.

The proper translation then for those that do not know what adultery is = " anyone who looks at the wife of another man lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"

 

Speculation? That is one of the fundamental teachings of Christianity in that God is perfectly Holy, thus He is not a sinner, never was, never will be.

That's the definition of being perfectly Holy.

Any human being who murders another regardless who it is, yes it is a sin.

When God killed during the times of the OT it was because of sins and so He was punishing the sins of the wicked thus He was justified.

Since God is Sovereign over His entire creation He has and will always have justification of punishing. Did you wrongly think that God just likes to kill on the whim for the enjoyment of it?

If you did then you have a gross misconception of the Almighty God, the Creator of the universe! For He is perfectly Holy, thus He does not sin.

 

Israelites killed women children and babies because God told them to.

Is baby killing not a sin because some dude figures God has commanded it ?

2) Why is God punishing children for the sins of their parents when God's laws to the Israelites state that children are not to be punished for the sins of their parents

 

Awesome opinion but proof of nothing. Theology is the realm of faith not fact. If you disagree then please provide me empirical proof of the resurrection of Jesus and I will convert immediately. Or provide empirical proof that God guided the hand of each and every person ever involved with the creation of the Bible and Book of Mormon.

You are Mormon, I am from Boise Idaho and some of my best friends are Mormon... good people. Mormons are some of the most Christ like Christians I have ever known. But I will not follow something I do not believe in... but I completely support your right to practice your faith any way you like.

 

Here's a question for WarRen or Mitt.

A Mrs Smith down the road is in need of help. I'm an agnostic but out of concern for Mrs Jones, I offer to help her.

My friends a christian and out of concern for Mrs Jones he, too, offers to help her.

Who is the more righteous?

 

God is good a delegating such ambitious projects. He's an effective project manager when it comes to baby-killing.

 

Babies/children are wicked ?? I KNOW they're not...what did they do to deserve suffering and dying?
How nasty vicious and cruel to slaughter children....I am so glad there really isn't a god...he sounds so awful...yuck!

Don't worry about answering , (I'm sure you don't) , since it seems you're here more to preach than answer.

 

Cherry picking again Mitt. The article you quote from gives quite a different interpretation if you read on.


You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” (NRSV)

Many churches (especially within Evangelical circles), emphasize this verse to adolescent boys, warning them that if they so much as think of a woman in a sexual manner, they’ve already sinned, that they’ve already effectively done the deed with her. Such an interpretation often works hand-in-glove with the common idea that Jesus “intensified” the Law in the Sermon on the Mount, setting a higher standard in order to show that no person could actually live up to God’s standards, showing that a person could only be saved by recognizing the impossibility of righteousness and then receiving forgiveness (a subject that will soon be addressed on this blog). So the common teaching is that sexual lust is absolutely evil—equivalent, even, to the actual act of sexual sin.

Another very popular way of reading this verse is to understand “lust” as indicating misplaced or overly robust libido; that is, “lust” is seen as illicit sexual desire. For example, here’s a recent (and quite common) response to the question of what lust is from a message board conversation I had some time ago: “I take lust to mean wanting something more than you should in an unhealthy way.”

This conception of “lust” often overlaps with the prior interpretation, to the effect that the young man is told, “Of course you will recognize that a woman is beautiful—that’s natural and unavoidable—but the moment your thoughts become sexual in nature, you’ve lusted, and that’s as bad as actually committing adultery.” Despite its popularity, this interpretation is imprecise, even flat wrong, and leads to surprisingly harmful consequences, making it a great candidate to start this series.

http://www.jasonstaples.com/bible-studies/most-misinterpreted-bible-passages-1-matthew-527-28/

 

I agree with you. I am merely stating it as fact much like christians do about their religion without viable proof. As my stated opinion would be just as accurate as anyone elses.
But, if one think God spoke to certain men 2000 yrs ago, and then no one has heard from God since, why? Why wouldn't Joseph smith be a good candidate for God's latest revelation to mankind.
I am not mormon, I am Lutheran.

 

Great post. Once again Mitt is relying on man made dogma rather than trying to figure out what was Jesus actually said or meant.

He will not come up with any legitimate response to the arguments against his claim. He will accuse those who do provide evidence against his claim of "misinterpretation" without providing any evidence of his own that refutes evidence against his claim.

Mitt is not interested in understanding the real message of Jesus. He is only interested in promoting his man made dogma.

 

I still wait my question.....


Mitt, if you had been an Israelite soldier during the war with the Amalekites?....

would you have killed children and babies? Yes or No...and why or why not?

 

My apologies, and hope you did not take offense to my referring to you as a Mormon.

 

None taken. Mormons are everybit a christian as the next jesus believer. Just have a few different rules. Because of the latest revelation from God.

 

Here's a question for Mittsy or any christian


Are all those criminals at General Motors who deliberately caused the death of others because of pure greed ...are they christian? I bet if you asked every one of these despicable pigs they'd swear they were...

How do you explain that?

If they say "gosh , gee, I'm sorry, it's just killing people for money" will they make it to your heaven ??

 

What? No christian has an answer???

 

No, the truth is non-believers such as yourself disagree with the Bible and so the reality is you are in denial of "the truth."

 

So why didn't you show the "quote" I made? I'll tell you why you didn't show it...it's because there was no such quote coming from me saying something outside of the Bible claiming it to be truth.

I am not here making up my own doctrines regarding the Christian faith that would be heresy. I keep in line with the fundamental teachings of the faith.

 

He did, only you can't see it. If you read the series of posts carefully you will,perhaps, see it. Though I doubt you will recognise it.

 

You can't answer the questions in Post 45 ?

Why not?

Was your thread title a lie???