Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Under Muslims, those natives will suffer 10x worse as I said their women will become slaves and mummified, their child girls will be deny education, and their culture will be totally wiped out but most of all they won't be allowed any form of First Nation autonomy. The Trail of Tears will become the Trail of Blood and Extinction.

 

Islam does not mummify their dead.

 

Christian scholars have wrote down everything the good and bad unlike Muslims that have use force censorship with brutal repercussion against anyone who dare to reveal the truth. As there are many persecution committed by sinful men there were also many worthy Christians who stood up against tyranny.

Christian missionaries and monastery have help to save thousands that were being persecuted and hunted, it is unfortunate that anti Catholic, anti Christian groups tend to concentrate on the bad guys not on the good guys and they like to throw all the bad guys into the same basket with the good guys. Without the Catholic church we will be 500 years behind and this modern world as we know it will be none existence.

Mohammed base his play book on heretical Christian books not the Holy Bible and he expanded and made it worse by creating his own book call quran.

Christian scholars have wrote down everything the good and bad.

Yup, truthfully that is why you are able to post all kinds of negative criticism thanks to Christians for keeping those records. Try go to Muslim country and post the kind of tough questions about Mohammed and Islam and let me know how it goes.

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Yup, truthfully that is why you are able to post all kinds of negative criticism thanks to Christians for keeping those records. Try go to Muslim country and post the kind of tough questions about Mohammed and Islam and let me know how it goes.

No they don't, they mummified their women while they are still alive, head to toe with only the eyes showing.

 

Show me......you really are scared of Islam aren't you? Do you think they are worried about you? Or christianity for that matter. Thats a large part of the problem with christianity it's always sticking it's nose where it don't belong. Then when it gets struck back it yells PERSECUTION!

 

Muslims target everyone. Did you know that Muslim exterminated the Jewish town in Mecca and Medina? And that up to now Muslims are trying to exterminate each other, using Jews and Christians as an excuse to kill each other?

In other words, Muslim leaders were in cahots with the Christian West. The Christians West let the Muslims destroy the many heretical Christians sects that the West have no stomach to do, and the Muslims after succeeding started to turn their swords toward the West, that caught the West off guard they didn't expect the Muslims will betray or back stab them they were supposed to share in the defeat of the heretical Christians in the Middle East with Jerusalem safe guard for Western Christians to access. The Byzantine ask the West for help the West refuse until the Byzantine renounce all the heretical Christians and submit to Rome's rule. That is how your hypothesis simplify things.

Until finally, nine true soldiers of God stood up to the power brokers that force the West to change policy the Nine Knights of Templars will become the inspiration and wake up call that would start the crusades after wards several kings and lords will again exploit all these and started to have their own holy armies.

What you provided was Bill talking about creation not about the great flood all you did is providing unsubstantiated proof only personal opinion, I provided you with several scientific claims that a great flood did happen and the effects of floods how it started base on science not religion.

 

Your imaginary history of the world is a spectacle to behold.

Why can't you just give up....there's history, complete with facts to disprove everything you say....and the crimes of christianity are documented, recorded, and unavoidable...

Your excusing christians slaughtering and torturing and stealing and raping is just sick.....and how weak is a religion that whines like a baby, "They did it first!"


Seems your religion doesn't lead, just follows.....and uses other's crimes to justify their own, not accepting responsibility for your own actions is a sign of weakness....

 

I already showed you plus Muslims history have also reveal it to you, am I scared of Islam?? hahaha what is so scary about Islam??, are you scared of Christians that is why you are so desperate to lie and distort about Christianity? Christianity will always stick their noses in order to oppose all evil, wickedness and oppression. Definitely you are not aware of history, Christianity has been persecuted since the time of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the first Christian to be targeted, up to now we Christians are still being persecuted.

 

My imaginary history is base on your imaginary hypothesis, I am just reacting and responding to your out of this world comments.
Why should I give up, if I do then all your lies and distortion will spread someone has to stand up and reveal the truth. Why don't you just embrace truth and God?

No excusing Christian sins, because we are all sinners. The only people that whines are the atheist-anti-Christians. Christians have been persecuted since the 1st century and none of them whine they all face death forgiving their tormentors.

Christianity has accepted all wrongs and mistakes that is why the Catholic church has openly ask for forgiveness, and financially pay for their sins how about your Islam has any Muslim leaders ever admitted their wrongs or pay up for their crimes...ZERO, they blame the victims, if a Muslims woman gets rape she gets punish not the rapist that is just one clear example. If a Muslims school girl decide to go to school it is her fault to get her face splash with acid, if Western countries including the USA decide to do business with Muslims by buying their oil it is our fault for making them rich that is your "good" Islam.

 

History huh. You ignore the fact that christians persecuted others as well. But that is expected since your Fundamentalism will not let you see past what has actually happened. So you think that throughout all of the history of religion poor little christians are the only ones who have been picked on? Your attitude indicates that christians somehow have the market cornered on being persecuted. Jesus was a LIE created by the church and never existed only in the minds of those who made him up.

Nope. christianity has done a fine job of distorting itself it don't need any help. Being afraid of MYTHS is a little STUPID since your entire religion was built on PAGAN MYTH. So you get off on distorting others religion in order to make christainity look like the good guy in all of this? What is actually happening is that Islam is growing faster and it scares the hell out of fundamentalist like yourself.

And then when it gets it's NOSE bashed in it cries PERSECUTION!

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/christian-discussion/44906-christian-persecution-peoples.html

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Thomas Jefferson wrote to Horatio Spafford in March 1814 that “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.” It seems to me that this is the case now.

So Pot you need to stop calling the kettle BLACK. Your christian rap sheet is not exactly clean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

 

I never deny Christians have been at odds with each other and have sinned, I also recognize that you throw all Christians in one basket for you all Christians and Christianity is bad because of the persecution, wars and politics that not only involve Christians but also involve Islam, atheist tyrants, and as there are many incidents of persecution and chaos in society many Christians stand out to to protect the victims and these are the Christians that you refuse to recognize. Christians have been persecuted since the 1st century that you also refuse to recognize.

Your claim that Jesus was a LIE sums it all you are indeed full of fallacy and distortion and your main goal is to PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS and it is persecutors like you that the more reason that we Christians need to stand firm and defend the TRUTH.

Islam is growing fast because of their oppressive policies at the same time in spite of Islam's oppressive policies many Muslims have found the courage to leave Islam and convert to Christianity. That is why Muslims are on a war rampage full of jihad because part of their Islamic ideology is to fight against proselytizing of Muslims or stopping Muslims from leaving Islam. Muslims are so scared of Christianity that they have started to attack churches.

Yes, we are being persecuted because we dare to stand up to EVIL AND WICKEDNESS, it feels really good to be on the side of good.

T. Jefferson is a protestant he is totally anti Catholic just like you are totally anti Christian. Since you have quoted T. Jefferson than you must agree with his Christian philosophy; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson_and_religion
he identified as Platonic elements in Christianity, in private letters Jefferson variously refers to himself as "Christian" (1803), "a sect by myself" (1819), an "Epicurean" (1819), a "Materialist" (1820), and a "Unitarian by myself" (1825). Historian Sydney E. Ahlstrom associated Jefferson with "rational religion" or deism.
So are you an anti Christian or anti Catholic?

An Abraham Lincoln highly motivated by his Christian faith went to war against the Christian slave masters of the South to free the slaves is the right thing to do.

Near eighty years ago we began by declaring that all men are created equal; but now from that beginning we have run down to the other declaration, that for SOME men to enslave OTHERS is a "sacred right of self-government." These principles can not stand together. They are as opposite as God and mammon; and whoever holds to the one, must despise the other.

Now I know why you are so extremely anti Christian......extremely deluded.

 

Heresy basically outlawed thinking. Within a few hundred years after Constantine it became a crime for anyone but a Priest to own or read a Bible.
Heresey extended beyond religion to almost all forms of knowledge. At the time of constantine the Roman people were relatively literate "a scholar on every street-corner" 1000 years later almost no one could read. .. This included kings and much of the clergy.

There may be some parallels in some ways but I dont think the comparison is that valid.

 

So... Pure conjecture based on outstanding biases? Grand.

 

Christianity enforced censorship to a far greater degree than Islam. In 1000 AD the Holy Roman Empire (what was left of it) and Europe were technologically inferior to the Muslims.

Within a few hundred years after Constantine it became a crime for anyone but a Priest to own or read a Bible.

Heresey extended beyond religion to almost all forms of knowledge. At the time of constantine the Roman people were relatively literate "a scholar on every street-corner" 1000 years later almost no one could read. .. This included kings and much of the clergy.

The Church focused on destroying anything that disagreed with what the Church said. There were mass book burnings and destruction of libraries. Schools were shut down and the people were kept as stupid as possible.

This extended to things well beyond religion into science, history, astronomy .. pretty much any form of knowledge. Galileo was put in jail for suggesting the earth was not the center of the universe.

The Muslims never exerted the kind of repression that the Catholic's did.

This is utter nonsense. Without the Catholic church we would be at least 1000 years ahead of where we are now. They destroyed what knowledge existed .. and intentionally kept people stupid for over 1000 years ?

What on earth are you talking about ???

It was the Christians that were doing the persecuting and the missionaries were at the head of the class. The first monks were assassins/spies .. charged with rooting out all forms of paganism and heresy. They were secret police akin to the gestapo.

From the time humans settled into cities, kingdoms . .and so forth .... the King, Pharaoh, Ceasar, Emperor had at least one primary focus.

This was keeping the raging masses from rebelling which normally resulted in killing him and his extended family. A very long time ago it was realized that religion was a great tool for keeping the masses calm. How to keep the masses at bay was considered "secret knowledge" and was passed down over the ages among the elite.

Egyptians had the concept of Maat .. this was similar to karma .. they believed your deeds were weighed on the scales of justice at the end of days. If you were found too light you were fed to a monster .. and that was it. This fear helped to keep people from anarchy.

Later on .. the fear factor was ramped up. Instead of just being fed to a monster .. the idea of eternal punishment was introduced and with great success.

The Persians were united under Zoroastrian monotheism and brought out of chaos. Judaism of today and the OT was influenced by Zoroastrian monotheism. Prior to this the Jews were polytheistic and were still sacrificing children. (Zoroastrianism forbid the sacrifice of children to the Gods)

Zoroastrianism had eternal punishment in the afterlife.

Constantine was a very smart political and military tactition and he knew his history. He ruled at a time of tremendous chaos. He adopted the same plan as the Persians .. introduced monotheism .. and really ramped up the fear factor.

Teaching a child that if he does not "follow" or does bad things .. that he/she will be eternally tortured in the afterlife is a powerful mind control technique. Even later in life this person will be scared to question certain things... Things that contradict the core of his religious belief.

The idea of enternal punishment is lodged in his subconscious and will push against any attempts of the conscious to question certain ideas.

Muhammad also lived at a time of chaos .. groups were fighting each other and so on. He saw that both the Persians and Christians had been united under monotheism .. and recognized the power of the fear factor.

You are right that the Quran is a rip-off of the OT. No need to create all the stories and history on your own when it has already been done for you.

Muhammad's stroke of genius was really ramping up the fear factor. You should take a moment sometime and read a few pages of the Quran.

What you will find is "fear" on almost every second page. Do this and be roasted over hot coals, .. Dont do that and suffer eternal torture... over and over an over .. drilled into the minds of the adherents.

 

There were numerous times when the Catholic Church went after other Christians .. they persecuted many Christian groups for disagreeing with them over the slightest of things.

There are many examples but one is the Montanists - the basis of current day Pentacostals.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=j2d...v=onepage&q=Persecution of Montanists&f=false

 

Well no kidding .. as were most of the founders. They knew the evil history of the Church. Anyone in their right mind should be anti -Catholic being so close in and living during the time where the Church committed such horrific atrocities and crimes against humanity.

 

If reason and rationality are causes for delusion then yeah I am.

Jefferson was a Deists. He had no use for the miracles in the Bible that it claimed this jesus performed.Look up the Jefferson Bible.Does noy matter weather I am anti Christian or anti Catholic. I am anti anything that forces its beliefs on others and then threatens them with burning in some mythos hell. No I do not agree with your TURN OR BURN religion.

What is it men cannot be made to believe!
-Thomas Jefferson to Richard Henry Lee, April 22, 1786. (on the British regarding America, but quoted here for its universal appeal.)

Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

1803 April 21. (Jefferson to Benjamin Rush). "To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other."

No the fallacy is on you I am afraid. Its christianity that has distorted and lied, made up a trumped god man that they failed to create any resemblance of a life for. He is totally absent from Antiquity outside your book. There you are with that word PERSECUTE again! Oh you poor little darling. You know when you get in a jam you should ask jesus to turn non believers into a fish. Your so insecure that all you can you do is accuse some one of persecution because they do not believe in your mythology. Sorry if christianity was so great and so true then you would not have to worry about Islam, Judaism or any other religion. But as such you do because every one does not buy it and never will so I suggest you get use to it.

 

LOL

Each of the seven possible forms of government have a legitimate place in some society, depending upon the cultural and economic institutions established at that moment.
AND,... in each case,... that Poltical Institution, once confirmed and established, has the need and the right to protect and defend its authority over that society where it has been duly authorized and legitimatized.

Your failed attempt to demean and separate out Theocracies, in particular, as if different is just, well, lame.

 

There aint seven forms of government. That's more of your numerological buls(*)(*)(*)(*).


And, no, not every form of government has a legitimate place in society. Theocracies are a good example.


You should research before you choose a position or try to argue. At least stop pulling things out of thin air.

 

Nope it is a fact, in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan etc. Muslim lands we have witness how Muslims have cleanse the ethnic groups and force women to be discriminated, now we are again witnessing how the people in those countries are starting to rise up after more than hundred of years under Muslim oppression and they are asking us for assistance both militarily, economically and politically at the same time we witness how Muslim leaders are trying suppress those people by force. That is why I will repeat thousands of Muslims have been given refuge since the 16th century to settle in Western countries to freely exercise and practice their faith.

 

Muslims burn all documents and manuscript including the original korans written by Muslim scholars and have anyone who dare to speak or challenge their authority are immediately put to death.

Christians restriction on Bible reading was mainly to stop the many heretics who are corrupting the Bible and have been spreading all kinds of distortion, lies and division.

Mohammed was the greatest heretic who succeeded in corrupting the Bible with the creation of his Islam and koran with explicit instruction to enforce it by force.

 

Your desperation to destroy Christianity is very clear you are willing and ready to make a deal with the devil oops you don't believe in devils, ok you are willing to make a deal with all the enemies of Christianity including Islam, Taliban, North Korea, and pray to Stalin, Mao for inspiration to give you the resources to destroy Christianity. Well bad news for you, Christianity is here to stay and will continue to stand up to all forms of tyranny, evil and wickedness just like it has always done since the 1st century.

Abe Lincoln;
“In regards to this great Book (the Bible), I have but to say it is the best
gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was
communicated through this Book. But for it we could not know right
from wrong. All things most desirable for man's welfare, here and
hereafter, are found portrayed in it.”

“Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right”

So I guess, you have no more tough questions just rant, hostility and angry posting about Christianity?
By the way Thomas Jefferson does not know anything about Islam or Muslim lives in Muslim lands during his time, he is only aware of the political, religious and social situation in his region and that is Christian Europe.

 

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So...?
How is that different from the South trying to sucede from the North in the context of a Democratic Political Institution of Government???

 

So?
Of the seven possible forms of political government, Theocracies will exist and make Laws which must be obeyed.
That is what all governments do.

That you don't like the particular Law is immaterial.

The punishment dealt out by Democracies or Dictatorships, even Kings are usually frim and severe in all cases.

 

There aint 7 possible forms of government. Stop with the bs.

 

You're comparing modern authoritarian states to a wide array of ancient caliphates. You can't possibly be trying to seem smart by doing so. Also, it isn't fact, it is literally an example of conjecture by definition. You can't say that you know how history would have played out if X had or hadn't happened.