Part 32 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. Newsflash, chickens come from eggs. W
    2. We use lots of unnatural things in our daily lives. I doubt a starving person would care if the chicken they ate was modified or not.

    So stop doing it.


    "Atheist regime"???!!!!!!! That is as hilarious as it is revealing. Thanks.
     
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    I am truly impressed with your access to Vatican Archives....is due to your Ranking or did you have ti bribe people? If you could.....please tell the Pope that I think he is pretty cool, and perhaps pick me up a Bottle of Holy Water the next time you are there to do your research in the Catacombs.

    Seriously though....one would hope you understand that putting opinion and speculation forward as fact is akin to straight out lying.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Substitute the word "theocratic" for the word "theology" in my original post.
     
  4. Incorporeal

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    Why? Were you in error? What relevance does the word 'theocratic' have in relation to 'theologic'? Why would you even desire to bring up 'theocratic' when segment of the discussion has been focusing on 'theologic' vs 'logic'?
     
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    Re-writing other people's posts is a violation of PF Rules.
     
  6. Incorporeal

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    Really? What specific post are you alleging that I guilty of 'Re-writing'? Make sure you provide a link to that alleged post wherein you claim that I am guilty of re-writing and also the original post of the other writer.
     
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    Quit making things up. This whole "lying for Jesus" tendency among some fundamentalists is very strange.

    Prove your claim.

    Who cares. All you are trying to do is avoid responsibility for your claims by diverting the conversation. We are not talking about the position of others. We are talking about your position.

    You are the one who has no respect for human life as shown by your acceptance of baby killing. These are born living human babies and not zygotes - single human cells that only have the potential to become babies.

    Regardless, it is you who has no respect human beings.
     
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    It is a stupid question for various reasons the first which is that you commit fallacy by assuming God exists when such can not be proven

    2) You do not specify which God you are referring to

    3) There is further an implied assumption on your part that the Bible describes God correctly

    There are more things wrong with your question but 1-3 are sufficient.

    So in response to the question you asked: NO

    In response to the question you meant to ask "are you against some of the Biblical descriptions of God of which there are many" YES

    I realize the God you believe in is a flip flopping, contradictory genocidal God who makes all kinds of naïve mistakes and has the most petty of human emotions and character flaws.

    You are welcome to this belief. I just do not share it.
     
  9. WanRen

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    Chicken from eggs is the natural thing. Chicken coming from labs are unnatural.
    People now a days are becoming more concern and conscious of what they consume because too many consumable products are made from labs mixed with all sorts of chemicals.

    Truth must not stop we need to keep on educating the public "Evil prevails when good men do nothing"


    Yes, atheist regimes lacks credibility that is why they always failed.
     
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    What ever error might have existed, this error is corrected by the suggested substitution.
     
  11. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Changing and distorting historical facts is lying that is why the church has kept countless records good and bad so that to prevent false history from being spread.
    There is no truth that Galileo was tortured
    The Crusade was a respond to Muslim aggression
    The Inquisition was a respond to political, social unrest and to counter vigilantism against the innocent
    Mary Magdalene is not the wife of Jesus Christ
    God is on the side of good
    The Holy warriors Templar's are not sorcerers or gay men.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing to make up about those manuscript that has been proven to be not authentic those manuscript is where movie and fiction writers base their movies for Da Devinci Code.


    Truth cares.
    My position is very clear God is on the side of good. I support Pro Life.
    Yours and them position is against God and support for Pro Abortion. Am I right or wrong?

    You use babies as an excuse to curse God I don't.
    You use babies as an excuse to defend the wicked and evil I don't.
    Yes, those babies are not zygotes they are human beings not potential to become babies but are living human being that you are ready to kill even before they reach babyhood. You are ready to murder those babies even before they become full for what? And you accuse me of not having respect for human beings!!??

    You not only have no respect for human beings but you are ready to preempt their existence even before they are born. :(
     
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    Yet another topic you seem to be rather ignorant of.

    Hint: Chickens don't come from labs. The chemicals (antibiotics, growth hormones) found in our food have NOTHING to do with genetic modifications or lab grown clones.



    I can appreciate you wanting to combat evil and consider yourself a good man.

    if I might make a practical suggestion, since you elect to combat evil thru educating the public, you might first want to educate yourself on the subjects upon which you wish to opine, as you consistently demonstrate a knowledge base in critical areas that ranges from the non-existent to the superficial.

    Hardly the ideal position from which to gain acceptance for your transfer of knowledge.


    History is littered with failed regimes, atheist, religious or agnostic. It generally comes down to economics as the root of failure, although hubris seems to crop up with regularlity.
     
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    Either back up this claim or shut up.
     
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    It has already been proven to be not authenticate fiction writers and movie producers refer to those manuscripts for their fictional movies.
     
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    Economics is just one part of it the other part is the suppression of freedom. Atheist regimes number 1 enemy is freedom.
     
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    Theocracies number 1 enemy is freedom, too!!!!, What a coinkadink.
     
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    Come on Giftedone... answer the remaining questions from my previous post. Don't be shy. Your avoidance of those remaining questions could possibly indicate a level of confusion on your part.
     
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    It has already been proven that God exist especially through Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ.

    No assumption from me or Christians we do accept and believe the Bible and the way it describes God.

    Question is very simple are you against God? Your post 1-3 does not answer this simple question.

    So now we know that you are not against God. If you are not against God then why use babies to condemn God?

    There is only one description of God and that is God is against evil and wickedness. The many you subscribe to are just excuses to curse or to condemn God.

    Looks like you are making assumption and excuses to condemn God and the best excuse is to use babies.

    Not believing is one thing but to use it as a means to create hate is another.
     
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    That is why the church has always been in the forefront of freedom and that is why atheist regimes, dictators, tyrants number enemy is Christianity because Christianity represents truth and freedom.
     
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    LOL You repeating "its true... its true ... its been proven" over and over again is not proof of much

    You are making up nonsense again. I do not condemn God. Only a fool would condemn or vilify God on the basis of a bunch of man made fairy tales purporting to be about God.

    I condemn YOU WanRen. It is you that tries to justify baby killing on the basis of God.
     
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    where is your proof. You claiming "it has been proved, it has been proved" is proof of nothing.

    You have no proof and are making things up again.
     
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    Why do you blame me for what you are doing ? You complained that I used the word theology instead of theocratic.

    I told you to substitute the word as my comments apply equally to both.

    If you like I can repost substituting the word for you if you can not figure out how to do this yourself.
     
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    You continue to ignore the questions... something that a lot of non-theists despise when a Theist does the same thing. So please answer these questions from my previous post:
    "What relevance does the word 'theocratic' have in relation to 'theologic'? Why would you even desire to bring up 'theocratic' when segment of the discussion has been focusing on 'theologic' vs 'logic'?"

    My original complaint regarding your choice of words was that you had used 'theology' as opposed to 'theologic'.. Then you decided to switch to 'theocratic' still avoiding the use of the term 'theologic'. Keep the record straight Giftedone.
     
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    Pray to jesus. he is the miracle worker, yes? he will fill you with joy if you are unhappy, answers if you have questions.

    If people suffer, that is because god is not onmipotent, of course. everything has limits, as without a end point, there is no value.
     
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