Part 34 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

God doesn't make any errors and so creating human beings wasn't an error. There are some who claim that Scripture shows God having second thoughts about His creation in regards to the passage of Genesis 6:5-7.

God was not showing weakness, regretting a mistake or admitting an error. Essentially, He was expressing His need to take specific, drastic action to counteract the wickedness of mankind.

Since the world is still existing, it proves that God did not consider His creation a mistake even though we are still sinful as ever and so we thank and praise the Lord for His grace!

We read in Scripture:

"God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant."---Romans 5:20 NLT

 

I agree. But as I also said - there was no resurrection - therefore Jesus was the Jewish preacher, not the Christ.

You are very naive. Superstition exists throughout human history - even today. And why do you think many countries have laws to suppress things for a period of time - sometimes up to 100 years.

Where does it say the Jews used all their powers to find the body?

Ghengis Khan? he founded an Empire.

Mongol leader Genghis Khan (1162-1227) rose from humble beginnings to establish the largest land empire in history. After uniting the nomadic tribes of the Mongolian plateau, he conquered huge chunks of central Asia and China. His descendents expanded the empire even further, advancing to such far-off places as Poland, Vietnam, Syria and Korea. At their peak, the Mongols controlled between 11 and 12 million contiguous square miles, an area about the size of Africa. Many people were slaughtered in the course of Genghis Khan’s invasions, but he also granted religious freedom to his subjects, abolished torture, encouraged trade and created the first international postal system. Genghis Khan died in 1227 during a military campaign against the Chinese kingdom of Xi Xia. His final resting place remains unknown.

Do you need any more proof about the existence of Ghengis Khan?

 

Therein was his mistake. Making man who could sin.

Hebrews version of the creation myth from earlier.

Marduk said " As for the stars, he set up constellations corresponding to them. He designated the year and marked out its divisions, Apportioned three stars each to twelve months. When he had made plans of the days of the year… "(Enûma Eliš, Tablet 5)

And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth". And it was so. (Genesis 1:14-15)

1 example. Plagiarism?

 

The no resurrection is base on your personal opinion while others accept the resurrection did occurred as I said the very reason why the Apostles came out from their hiding and become fearless was because of the resurrection of Christ Jesus without the resurrection do you think there will be Christianity?

Detractors of the resurrection can not provide any proof that it did not happen while believers have provided proof that it did happen with the missing body of Christ and eye witness accounts of the Apostles.

Not believing in Christ resurrection due to lack of evidences is part of superstition accepting facts of the resurrection is not superstition.

Here is a good read about all sort of theories of the resurrection and in my opinion it seem's everything points that the resurrection did occurred in a myterious and explain manner just like there are still many explainable things in this planet and universe the resurrection is one of them. http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/historical-evidence-of-jesus-christs-resurrection/

Flavius Josephus wrote about the resurrection and later modern historians in spite of the numerous theories that the resurrection was a hoaxed find it to be unsubstantiated or impossible to accept.
When Christ body was reported missing Jewish leaders send their followers to search for it and they could not find it.

Matthew 28: 11 Now while they were going, behold, some of the guard came into the city and reported to the chief priests all the things that had happened. 12 When they had assembled with the elders and consulted together, they gave a large sum of money to the soldiers, 13 saying, “Tell them, ‘His disciples came at night and stole Him away while we slept.’ 14 And if this comes to the governor’s ears, we will appease him and make you secure.” 15 So they took the money and did as they were instructed; and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

Jewish leaders not Jews would do all their can to distort the resurrection account.

Jesus change the entire Jewish tradition, change the Roman empire and Christianity will live on up to this day while Genghis Khan's empire disappeared as if it never existed.

Physical evidence of Genghis Khan is needed just like you ask for physical evidence of Jesus Christ if none can be provided does this mean Genghis Khan is myth?

 

No they haven't.

All the Historians wrote second hand reports - what they had been told. They were not there.

Ghengis Khan. There is proof of Ghengis Khan. If I remember rightly last year the city his first son ruled was being excavated. Where there's a son there must be a father. I' ve also heard other rumours but nothing specific yet. Keep an eye on things in the next months.

Christian propaganda. Pilate had already washed his hands of the whole affair. If he had heard he would not have cared. It was a matter for the Jews. They had put their guards there. They were not Roman soldiers. These would not have been allowed to interfere in Jewish religious matters. You really need to study what was possible in those days.

 

You need to understand what you are reading. Historians based their records and reports both on first hand and second hand and scholars accept them as factual because it has been verified and confirm.
As far as Genghis Khan is concern base on your understanding as long as no physical evidence is discovered he is just a myth. Jesus Christ definitely is no rumor and his resurrection is no rumor too.

What purpose would Jesus followers have to spread propaganda about Jesus resurrection when they know very well that only painful death not only of their own lives but of their love ones await's them?
Were they really that convince or do they have bigger plans if they succeed which they know they have no chance of succeeding what reason would they have to spread propaganda about the resurrection?

All known scholars agree that something big and convincing happen after Jesus death and resurrection that change the Apostles not just one Apostle but all of them became fearless and ready to give up everything they have no ambition nothing to gain materially to spread the resurrection except painful death and eternal life. Sharing to everyone that Jesus the preacher of Nazareth is The Christ The Son of God through the Resurrection Jesus prove that He is Truly the One.

 

I've told you about evidence of Khan.

So you admit Islam is right. Mohammed was right. Its followers believe as firmly as Christians. Now that's interesting. Don't you think it's down to what people want to believe. Like the Christians deliberately provoking authorities to be martyred. Like the KamiKaze Japanese pilots.

 

I've told you the factual historicity about Jesus Christ both Jesus Christ and Genghis Khan are real historical individuals.

Mohammed is a real historical figure too and like atheist he got historical Jesus story all wrong he is like the atheist twisting everything to suite their personal agenda. History is very clear about Mohammed he was a warlord like Genghis Khan he use military force and insist that everyone should pay taxes to him and to submit to his Islam. Jesus Christ separated state and church, the Apostles never provoked the authorities it was the authorities that wanted to shut them down at all means. The Kamikazes are fanatics that were ready to die for their man-god.

Without the resurrection there will be no Christianity no Islam. And who would atheist be attacking the Persians, the Buddhist, Hindus, Taoist?

 

I've given you physical evidence for Ghenghis Khan. You've given me nothing buy words on paper. And you really need to study more. Khan allowed religious freedom. He was NOT a Muslim but a Tengrist - and you can look that up for yourself.

So Islamists are kamikazi, Christians are kamikazi? After all they sacrifice their lives for what they believe in.

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And why would atheists be attacking anything? You're way of beam.

 

Genghis Khan for sure was not an atheist or agnostic You have no physical evidence of Genghis Khan you just provided stories of his existence.

Atheist are tyrants, authoritarians and dictators Stalin, Mao, Kim you name it they are worse than kamikazi. Kamikazi will die for their moral code of duties while atheist have no moral code and obligation they'll kill and die for their man-god.

Without Christianity, atheist will be attacking the Hindus, the Jews, the Buddhist. Atheist will be attacking them for refusing to renounce their religion and refusing to worship their man-atheist-god.

 

I think that Genghis Khan practiced Shamanism.. I will have to check.

Atheists don't really care what you believe unless you force them to worship as you do..

Are you quite alright?

 

Religion

Genghis Khan was a tengrist, but was religiously tolerant and interested in learning philosophical and moral lessons from other religions. He consulted Buddhist monks, Muslims, Christian missionaries, and the Taoist monk Qiu Chuji.[28]

Genghis Khan, and the following Yuan Emperors forbade Islamic practices like Halal butchering, forcing Mongol methods of butchering animals on Muslims, and other restrictive degrees continued. Muslims had to slaughter sheep in secret.[29] Genghis Khan directly called Muslims and Jews "slaves", and demanded that they follow the Mongol method of eating rather than the halal method. Circumcision was also forbidden. Jews were also affected, and forbidden by the Mongols to eat Kosher.


Among all the [subject] alien peoples only the Hui-hui say "we do not eat Mongol food". [Cinggis Qa’an replied:] "By the aid of heaven we have pacified you; you are our slaves. Yet you do not eat our food or drink. How can this be right?"

He thereupon made them eat. "If you slaughter sheep, you will be considered guilty of a crime." He issued a regulation to that effect ... [In 1279/1280 under Qubilai] all the Muslims say: "if someone else slaughters [the animal] we do not eat". Because the poor people are upset by this, from now on, Musuluman [Muslim] Huihui and Zhuhu [Jewish] Huihui, no matter who kills [the animal] will eat [it] and must cease slaughtering sheep themselves, and cease the rite of circumcision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

 

Tengrism explained here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengrism

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Tengrism (sometimes spelled Tengriism), occasionally referred to as Tengrianism is a Central Asian religion characterized by features of shamanism, animism, totemism, both polytheism and monotheism,[1][2][3][4][5] and ancestor worship. Historically, it was the prevailing religion of the Turks, Mongols, and Hungarians, as well as the Xiongnu and the Huns.[6][7] It was the state religion of the six ancient Turkic states: Göktürk Khaganate, Avar Khaganate, Western Turkic Khaganate, Great Bulgaria, Bulgarian Empire and Eastern Tourkia. In Irk Bitig, Tengri is mentioned as Türük Tängrisi (God of Turks).[8] The term is perceived among Turkic peoples as a national religion.

 

What a silly response ?. Obviously the humans that God killed were not perfect. Once again your nonsense claim is refuted.

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I never claimed any such thing.

You claimed that "physical evidence" for Jesus exists. This claim is abject nonsense.

 

Atheist going to hate Genghis Khan more because he is not an atheist.
Atheist don't care what we believe in they just hate us for refusing to be atheist.
I am okay as long as atheist stop distorting historical facts with their distorted claims that Jesus is not real that Jesus is not Christ.

 

God created human perfect, it is humans that chose to live an imperfect life.

 

What does some blubbering from Paul have to do with something supposedly written thousands of years earlier in Genesis ? Aside from the fact that your passage does not even address the fact that humans are not perfect.

How can humans be perfect if they are created sinful/ Original sin.

1) How do you know that God does not make errors ?? What a crock of hooey. Starting off with an obvious fallacy.

FACT: There is "NOTHING" that you know about God for certain.

2) Even if we "Assume - and this is quite an assumption" that the Bible story in Genesis has some basis in fact. That Story does not paint God as without error.

We are told that God "regrets" creating humans. It is painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain that if God had created humans "Perfectly" they would not be committing so much sin that God would regret creating them.

What friggen definition of Perfect are you using ? Perfectly evil ?

Even then .. if God wanted to create something that were Perfectly Evil and succeeded in this task, then why would he want to destroy these perfectly evil creations.

Why would God want to destroy something that was created exactly how he intended ?

Further. Why would God be upset at human sin, when these humans are acting exactly how God created them to act ?

 

Then obviously humans are not a perfect creation. Duh

 

They've just unearthed a city his son built. Therefore Genghis Khan, his father must have existed - unless there was another miraculous birth.

And Christians are/were not.

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Tripe.

I would go and see a psychiatrist if I were you.

 

Tripe.

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A psychiatrist is a very good idea.

 

Humans chose to be imperfect not God.
God created this universe not just humans perfect that is why the cycle of life is so perfect and amazing!

 

Are you saying that Genghis Khan is a god?
Jesus Christ evidences does not need unearthing because it is publicly and widely available to everyone to see in fact many of the evidences are being destroyed by enemies of Christ that started with his crucifixion, negative rumors that Jesus body was stolen by his Apostles, that Jesus had a look a like that was crucified, the killing of all of Christ Apostles and subsequently Christians all in order to wipe out the truth and evidences it all failed. Now, atheist are spreading all sorts of false information and distorting factual historicity of Jesus Christ all in vain.

Christians have always stand up against tyranny, authoritarians and dictators that is why Christians are always the main target by communism, atheist and Islam.

The Church has been very successful in treating many psychiatric patients those they can not treat are like Stalin, Mao, Kim etc.

 

The choice that these human's made was entirely a function of what God created.

If God did not want humans choose evil, then he should have done a better job of creating them.

In any case, God regrets his mistake. The fact that God regrets the creation of humans shows that humans are not perfect.

That humans are not perfect shows that God's creation was not perfect.

Its not complicated for those who are not in abject denial WanRen.

 

Scientist agree that this universe is created perfect they are amaze and tantalize the way the universe and the living things world function and humans are the highest form of creation or evolution.

 

What a silly comment.

We are talking about human imperfections. Scientists in general do not claim that the God of Abraham even created Humans, never mind that they are perfect.

Once again you have no defense for your nonsensical claims.