Part 39 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

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    It's all an attempt to control you. At the core it is about power and obedience.
     
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  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure .. but your point is mute - "Internet Atheists" by en large to not argue that Jesus was just a myth any more ... Modern Scholarship agrees that there was certainly a messianic Jewish figure who gathered a following .. preached an apocalyptic message .. was a wonder worker .. and in fact there were a number of such figures throughout the first and part of the second century AD .. History records that a number of these Jewish Messiah's met their with crucifixion ..which was a common practice for dissidents and rebel rousers.

    "The Point" which should be obvious .. is what else do we know about this wonder worker from Galilee ..or Bethlehem or Nazareth .. somewhere in Judah .. we actually don't know .. but apparently his family disowns him .. so perhaps best not to assign this fellow a home.

    But --- there is another point .. and that is that you/we don't know this Jesus fellow very well .. particularly not the "Internet Snake Charmers" who will engage in all manner of fallacy to distort the message of "Our Lord and Savior Jesus" as opposed to your lord and savior Martin aka "The Wolf in Sheep's Clothing"

    Who is the author of Confusion Mitt .. is it Jesus or his God ? and now to the Big Point .. that you know not the name of the God that this Jewish Messiah is promoting. ? "Our Father -- hallowed be thy name" Who is the Father .. and what is the Hallowed name of the God of Jesus.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you not wish to be controlled ? to give others power over you that you may be obedient ? Religion is then for you is it not ?
     
  4. Mitt Ryan

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    No giff my boy as usual you have no idea what you're saying and so it's you that haven't the faintest idea. Unlike you, my favorite Christian Ministry interprets Scripture correctly, and so it is by this interpreting of Scripture correctly that one can conclude that Lord Jesus did not go the hell between the time of His death and resurrection. I recommend that you watch the video again or if you prefer to read the printed article I'm furnishing below. And don't let the father of a lies, deception and depravity the devil himself interfere with your complete understanding of what is being presented. Come into the light and out of the darkness for if you continue to follow the wrong path the consequences won't be pleasant for all eternity!



    Ok thanks giff for your post.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

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    Correction: No giff my boy as usual you have no idea what you're saying and so it's you that haven't the faintest idea. Unlike you, my favorite Christian Ministry interprets Scripture correctly, and so it is by this interpreting of Scripture correctly that one can conclude that Lord Jesus did not go to hell between the time of His death and resurrection. I recommend that you watch the video again or if you prefer to read the printed article I'm furnishing below. And don't let the father of all lies, deception and depravity the devil himself interfere with your complete understanding of what is being presented. Come into the light and out of the darkness for if you continue to follow the wrong path the consequences won't be pleasant for all eternity!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holy Gaslighting for Jesus Brother Mitt -- you talk about lies and deception from the "Father of Lies" ... yet your post opens up with falsehood, personal invective and deception ?! You are fully aware of your past 100% strike out record on contested point --- running away from the teachings of Jesus .. deflecting to other scripture rather than correct interpretation of scripture at hand .. for example "The Will of the Father" in the Sermon on the mount .. or the identity of this "Devil" that you go on and on about. What is the name of this demon with which you are so familiar .. know so much about ?

    Who is the one hiding in the corner .. the one needs to "Come out of the Darkness" ... posting from snake charming sites .. substituting the word of snakes for the Word of Lord Jesus on which you trample and from which you have run .. time and time again Brother Mitt -- failing to answer "tough questions" - time and time again .. running from the Truth .. as you will demonstrate right now in continued avoidance of "The Will of the Father" .. as told us by Lord Jesus in his Great Sermon on the Mount .. "The will of the Father .. who art in heaven .. hallowed be thy name" is the path you have rejected .. Not I Brother Mitt. It is you that rejects the Hallowed name of the Father .. a name you know naught .. the name of a God you do not follow.

    What is the name of this that God you worship - the author of confusion, deception and blasphemy ... bring this God of yours out from the Darkness Brother Mitt .. and tell us the name of this God who's word you wish to substitute for the word of Lord Jesus ?
     
  7. Mitt Ryan

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    Sorry giff but as usual you're wrong. The Israelite/Jewish religion known as Judaism was always monotheistic in other words the religion is based on believing there is only one true God.

    However though it is true that there were always some Israelites/Jews who drifted away from the core belief of the religion and believed in other gods as well...these gods mentioned in the Bible were false gods but nevertheless the religion itself Judaism always believed in only one true God the Creator who is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything else that exists in this universe.

    Now I would like to present a video from my favorite Christian Ministry, they will answer the question, "What is Judaism and what do Jews believe? After viewing the video and if you have an ounce of intellectual honesty you will admit your error in falsely believing that the Jewish religion Judaism believed in many gods.





    Ok thanks giff for your post.
     
  8. Mitty

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    Wrong. The bible says there are many gods and their hierarchy is described in Exodus 20:3. And the creation story in Genesis 1:26-27 describes a meeting of a number of gods to discuss creating a male person in the image and likeness of the male creator god and creating a female person presumably in the image and likeness of a goddess such as Yahweh's wife Asherah.
     
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    Mitt ! How have you been .. you ran away from my last post - just a couple back .. and now you show up crying out "your Wrong" .. under the influence of the decepticon ?! From Previous
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    "What is the name of this that God you worship - the author of confusion, deception and blasphemy ... bring this God of yours out from the Darkness Brother Mitt .. and tell us the name of this God who's word you wish to substitute for the word of Lord Jesus ?"
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    You fail to tell us the name of this God that you worship .. the one Jesus calls .. "a deceiver from the beginning" .. and how you show up claiming that the Israelite religion is Judaism ? and absurdly false claim Brother Mitt. .. I don't understand .. why you don't understand .. this basic distinction ? .. now put thinking cap on and listen .. Judaism is monotheistic .. a Religion which evolved under Persia .. the Jews giving YHWH a new identity .. some kind of resurrection of a dead God .. but sure ..

    Where you go right off the rails is the claim that the Israelites were monotheistic .. a ridiculously false claim .. not a single Israelite was monotheistic .. have you never read the Bible ? What exactly did you think a visit to a Temple of YHWH was like in 900 BC .. have you naught read the Book Brother Mitt ? Tell me of the Gods the the Great King Solomon was worshiping ? but first .. tell me of the Gods being worshiped along-side YHWH in the house where YHWH lived.

    and while describing what a visit to the Temple of YHWH was like - don't forget to explain what the male prostitutes were used for .. I understand the Female .. but trying to figure out what the male prostitutes were for .. were they for women .. or men ? .. or Both Mitt .. I now this is a tough question but give your opinion what ever it might be ..and do remember to hang out with the YHWH in the "Hot Box" partake in the Holy Hash ! What a wonderful place the Temple of YHWH .. back in the day .. far cry from what goes on in the Tabernacle these days :)
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

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    As usual your take on anything in Scripture is wrong, wrong because you're not a believer in the Christian faith. You continue to mock the religion but your mocking won't go on forever for there will certainly be a day when your mocking stops.

    We Read in Scripture:

    7 Don’t be misled—you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant. Galatians 6:7 NLT

    7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. Galatians 6:7 ESV

    Anyone who goes to their death in disbelief that Jesus is their Lord and Savior will face the wrath of Almighty God and will be punished for their sins committed while living on God's green earth.

    We Read in Scripture:

    "We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who you are. For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God's glorious standard. Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when He freed us from the penalty of our sins. For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed His life, shedding His blood." Romans 3:23-25 NLT

    Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave [a] his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

    18 “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20 All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21 But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants. John 3:16-21 NLT

    Footnotes

    a. 3:16 Or For God loved the world so much that he gave.

    b. 3:21 Or can see God at work in what he is doing.

    Now before I go let me present a video from my favorite Christian Ministry. They answer the question, "Why did Jesus say, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?



    Ok thanks gift for your post.
     
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    IOW Moses and Abraham and David etc were punished for their sins since they didn't believe in Jesus and didn't repent and didn't tithe to preacher men selling after death salvation with money-back guarantees, even though David was his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:7).
     
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    What is with these False accusations .. name calling and generalized deception Brother Mitt ? Posting from those snake charmer sites ..that mock God .. while accusing others of mocking God prior to taking log out of own eye.

    I am not the one who mocks God Mitt - we have been through this before -- You were warned against committing the unforgivable sin .. yet you run from the teachings of Jesus .. try to supplant "The Word" .. "God's Word" .. with the teachings of men .. the wolves in sheep's clothing .. Idol Martin .. Emperor Constantine ... and yes even Brother Paul .. is not "The Word" of Jesus from which you run .. and his God who you do not know .. but so bold you are to put words in the mouth of this God . and others in a debate tactic known as Strawman fallacy ..

    Why are you quoting Galatians ... telling others they are misled .. when Quoting Galatians itself is an attempt to mislead. Such is the way of the decepticon Brother Mitt. The words of Paul is not the Word of Jesus.. yet when presented with the word of Jesus ... you continuously rush to supplant the word of Jesus Lord and Savior .. with that of Brother Paul .. and then do not receive correction for this "unforgivable sin" against the Spirit .. through which Jesus speaks the word of God directly .. not Brother Paul --- and not Pastor Bob and the Pentecostal Church down the Street .. "speaking in tongues"

    What part of Jesus told his God that he did not want to go through with the Plan .. is "the wrong take on Scripture" .. what is your take on "Take this cup from My Hand" .. and who is the God Jesus is speaking to "hallowed be thy name"

    Do correct this interpretation of Scripture .. I welcome proper correction .. tell us how "Take this cup from my hand" is to be interpreted other than "Jesus does not want to do it" it is not his will to go through with God's plan .. and tell us what God's will is.
     

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