Part 6 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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    It is a powerful influence that leads people to believe all sorts of crazy things, like universal floods for example.
     
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    Quote Posted by Giftedone on pg. 41 #401 of Part 3 in response to my post:

    Let's just say for argument sake, Hitler became very repentant, very sorry for all his actions, cried out to our Lord Savior Jesus Christ for His forgiveness, and was very sincere about it, accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord Savior, then according to Scripture, he would be forgiven and allowed into heaven. (Post from Mitt Ryan)
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    Not according to Jesus or his Disciples. (Post from Giftedone in response to my post above)
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    Well yes, technically it is according to Jesus, Jesus said many things that confirms what I said above, although He did not say them exactly in the way I expressed it above, but nevertheless He confirms what I have said is true through the many things He has been quoted as saying during His ministry.

    Here is one passage from the Holy Bible where Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me will live, even after dying. Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never ever die." John 11:25-26 NLT

    Basically that is what the Christian religion is all about, believing in Jesus, asking for forgiveness of your sins and accepting Him as your Lord Savior, and you will be saved.
     
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    Crazy is believing that everything in existence just came about accidentally with no Creator involved...now that's crazy IMHO!
     
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    That is crazy, also.

    But, believing in a creator does not require belief in impossible things.
     
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    How about people who make up things about what others believe in order to have something to call crazy.

    Would it be a sign of communism, moral weakness, or simple insanity?
     
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    Here's how Ryan and Pitman believe it happened: Beginning about 12,500 B.C., at the end of the Ice Age, meltwater from the retreating glaciers flowed south into the Black Sea basin creating a giant freshwater lake that emptied into the Aegean Sea via the valley of the Sakarya River east of the Bosporus, which was then dry land. After a brief return to a colder climate, the discharge of glacial meltwater resumed at about 10,500 B.C., but most of it flowed not south, but west across Europe to the North Sea.

    Cut off, the Black Sea shrank, over time dropping 350 feet below the Bosporus. Meanwhile, the influx of glacial meltwater continued, raising the level of the world's oceans until around 5600 B.C., when the water crested the Bosporus. According to Ryan and Pitman the force of the water coursing through the narrow channel would have been tremendous: "Ten cubic miles of water poured through each day, two hundred times what flows over Niagara Falls, enough to cover Manhattan Island each day to a depth of over half a mile." The water, they claim, would have raised the Black Sea's surface by six inches per day, flooding some 60,000 square miles within a few years. Remains of freshwater creatures killed by the saltwater and of terrestrial plants inundated by it settled in an organic rich blanket over the bottom, the sapropel found throughout the Black Sea basin today. Ryan and Pitman may be right.

    Where the authors go overboard is in the book's third section, in which they assess the consequences of a Neolithic flood. Their conclusion is predicated on a huge archaeological assumption, namely that after the beginnings of agriculture the ancient Near East suffered a drought forcing the first farmers to find refuge in a more friendly climate--on the pre-flood Black Sea coast. Ryan and Pitman claim that all farmers, from Egypt to Europe, and even early nomads of Central Asia, derive from this population, which the deluge displaced and sent scurrying to the earth's four corners, carrying with them not just agriculture but the memory of the flood as well.

    I wonder what Egyptologists will think when they read that the Nile's predynastic inhabitants came from the Black Sea. And do we really want to accept that mummies in western China's Taklamakan Desert dated to 2000 B.C. are connected to a flood in the Black Sea at about 5600 B.C. that was recorded in Babylonia in 1600 B.C.?


    More at the link.

    http://archive.archaeology.org/9901/abstracts/books.html
     
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    It was my post, and I approve t hat message.

    It looks like some of the quote symbols are getting erased somehow.

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    I wrote in a couple of quote symbols.

    This thread, for example had :QUOTE=Margot2;1063127284 (with brackets around it, which I removed)

    So, had I left it in, it would have read as a quote by Margot2.

    Then at the end, there should be /QUOTE, also with brackets around it (if I put them in, it would mess up this post in some bizarre ways, so I left them out.

    and if there is a QUOTE somewhere in the middle, in brackets, it also ends the quoted part.
     
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    Quote Posted by dairyair on pg. 41 #403 of Part 3 in response to post from WanRen

    Because Mohammed is wroshiping a false god that is why he went on a rampage of wars against Christians and everyone else. While Constantine's vision resulted in the halt to the persecution and killings of Christians. (Post by WanRen)
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    You are now claiming the God of Abraham, Muslim Allah, is a false god? Very dangerous of you. He is your God afterall. (Post by dairyair in response to WanRen's post)
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    Christians and Muslims worship God differently and both claim and believe they have the "True Faith"

    In 1076, Pope Gregory VII wrote this to a Muslim leader: “We believe in and confess one God, admittedly, in a different way…”

    In my view, I believe we Christians are worshipping God the right way because of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ, whom according to the Muslims was just another prophet and not the Son of God.

    So who is right?...well the answer is.... God only knows!
     
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