Part 9 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. taikoo

    taikoo Banned

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    I heard "Jesus" renounced god on his death-cross.
     
  2. Mitt Ryan

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    Sorry but it hasn't been proven beyond any shadow of doubt that dinosaurs lived millions of years before man. It's just the view of evolutionists. (a theory, a speculation, a guess)

    According to evolutionists, the dinosaurs “ruled the Earth” for 140 million years, dying out about 65 million years ago. However, scientists do not dig up anything labeled with those ages. They only uncover dead dinosaurs (i.e., their bones), and their bones do not have labels attached telling how old they are. The idea of millions of years of evolution is just the evolutionists’ story about the past. No scientist was there to see the dinosaurs live through this supposed dinosaur age. In fact, there is no proof whatsoever that the world and its fossil layers are millions of years old. No scientist observed dinosaurs die. Scientists only find the bones in the here and now, and because many of them are evolutionists, they try to fit the story of the dinosaurs into their view.
     
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    But the story does point out that in his later years Darwin did soften in his attitude toward Christianity. He even allowed a local church to hold their meetings on his property, and asked that his bedroom windows be opened so he could hear the hymns being sung. A Christian can only hope that the seeds planted earlier took root at the end, and that he did place his faith in Christ before he died.

    And so even though the family has refuted the story, there still exist the possibility that perhaps Darwin did denounce his theory of evolution and accepted Jesus Christ near the end. As a Christian I hope he did.
     
  4. Mitt Ryan

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    Now c'mon let's be honest...who is really making an ignorant statement?...lol
     
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    You think science is just a "story"?
    No wonder you think the bible is truth.
     
  6. Mitt Ryan

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    To answer that question would be speculative for it is not written in Scripture and so I don't like to speculate. That is a question only Almighty God could ever answer.
     
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    Dinosaurs are not in the book bible but let me tell you what we do know

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth

    From this statement we know that God was before dinosaurs, and we also know this because he is GOD.

    Then in a new paragraph it says, And the earth was without form, and void: and darkness was upon the face of the deep. What does this mean?? without form meaning disorder, the definition of void meant is ineffective not binding (not forever)

    then it says darkness was upon the face of the earth. Darkness means evil, les we forget JEsus is the light of the world, and we have the opinion to pick evil or goodness. The dinosaurs were what you expect dinosaurs and fought to survive even in the deep waters.

    Age of the dinosaurs is above

    Then the bible says the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters and God said let there be light. We know that the holy spirit carries light and goodness. God saw the light and said it was GOOD again that means that the light is GOOD. and he divided it for us to have night and day that means we can pick light or darkness death or light
     
  8. Mitt Ryan

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    Do you have conclusive evidence that supports your view proving God isn't real?

    Here is a logical statement: When the critic says there's no Creator (God) he's basing this on his own insight, and unless he has insight into 100% of all knowledge he can never be sure he's right.

    So what do you call it when one expresses negative sentiments of something?...denials perhaps? Yeah, that's it, you're in denial.

    Everyone one of us are in denial, you non-believers deny God's existence, we believers deny God's non-existence.

    Who is right? No one knows for sure, but what is certain is death...and taxes too...lol

    But we believers have faith in Almighty God the Creator!

    I suppose you non-believers have faith in "chance" meaning all this existence just happened by accident.
     
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    Progress is made!
    You believe in god, but you don't know for sure.
    A big step!
    You are officially an agnostic!
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

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    Are you positively certain about that? Are you omniscient? Or are your statements just a theory, speculation, guess work?
     
  11. Mitt Ryan

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    I have always said, it takes faith. That is what is taught in the Scriptures. Being you were a former ordained minister as you have claimed you should already know this.

    And so I don't know why you are so terribly surprised by my statement...lol

    For how can anyone know for sure, none of us are omniscient...that is what God is...omniscient.

    But of course there are silly people who believe they are gods in their own right...lol
     
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    Just happy to hear it.
    All agnosticism is is the belief that the truth or falsity of a deity can not be known.
    It has no influence on whether you believe or don't, only that you can't actually know either way.
    From now on, I will always refer to you as an agnostic, as I would not want to misrepresent your position.
     
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    No, I have faith in God and so I'm not an agnostic. I believe He exist, I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord Savior because I have absolute faith in Him.

    In other words I am a member of the Christian faith. Besides an agnostic is just another way of saying "atheist" of which I profess I am not an atheist.

    It's rather obvious you have an issue with comprehending what you read...what else is new? My friend Incorporeal was right...he said be careful with your words because these non-believers like to twist other people's word...how so true!...lol
     
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    You can be a Christian and an agnostic.
    All it means is you believe the truth can't be known.
    That's all.
    That's you.
    You are a Christian agnostic.
    There is no shame in that.
     
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    Radiocarbon dating. There was even a Nobel prize in chemistry given for it. It is not a theory. This is not open to debate.
    Also, no scientists observed Dinosaurs die because man didn't exist yet, but if that's your argument, WOW are you proving to a lot of people reading this that I am correct. If God really does exist Im guessing at any second now youre gonna hear a voice that says to stop helping.
    Also interesting that you require absolute proof of evolution in order to believe it and even when you get it you don't believe it, but you have no problem what a guy in a bathrobe wrote in a book that told you to believe. You call that faith. Do you honestly not see the utter hypocrisy in your ideology?
     
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    No one twisted your words. You just didn't know what agnostic meant. No big deal. You learned something tonight.
    You stated very clearly that neither believers nor non-believers can know that they are right. That is the definition of agnosticism.

    Bing Dictionary
    ag·nos·tic[ ag nóstik ]1.somebody denying God's existence is provable: somebody who believes that it is impossible to know whether or not God exists

    Wow! That's you!
    Be careful about your "friend" Incorporeal. He believes that Jesus is a separate lesser god from the Father, and he believes he is a lesser god as well.
    You can ask him yourself.
    Is that what you believe?
     
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    Let the readers note, I stumped the panel. No religious people can answer why God loved Dinosaurs more than man. They thrived for an exponential period longer than man. The reason why your bible doesn't cover it proves it was written by men with no divine intervention. They didn't write about it because they didn't know what they were. Had these guys who wrote the bible understood what dinosaurs were and their subsequent conundrum they would cause, I'm sure there would have been an entire section explaining them away. Fact is the men in that time period didn't have the technology to know what Dinosaurs were and therefore never gave them a second thought. Surely God knew about Dinosaurs am I correct?
    What's puzzling you?
     
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    Well if you want to label me as such then so be it. But let the record show that I am a Christian by faith and believe in all the tenets of the faith.

    And as far as proving truth or non-truth it is a certainty that not any of us, regardless if you believe or don't believe, can do that for we are not omniscient only our Lord is omniscient.
     
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    Perhaps in your dreams...lol
     
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    Bingo!
    That's agnosticism!
    Welcome to the club!
     
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    Much like carbon dating. Its now fact. Go back and re-read the post. Now I just remembered you are the poster who states you answered a question after giving a non-answer. Technically you wrote something yes but it did not answer the question. If I ask if its raining out and you say 43 that's not an answer. That's the sound of losing an argument.
     
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    LOL Im not agnostic either, I just cant confirm nor deny the existence of God.
     
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    Your question wasn't asking why God loved dinosaurs more than humans, only in your twisted mind that was part of your question.

    But needless to say, the answer I gave wasn't at all conceding that yes, God loves dinosaurs more than humans.

    Again in your wildest dreams you have stumped the panel...lol
     
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    Just curious.
    What did you think "agnostic" meant?
     
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    That's right too. You are also the Strawman arguer. Now you know as well as I do that wasn't the question you didn't answer.

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    Also so now my mind is twisted? Did God tell you to insult me?
     
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