Pentagon pulls funds for military schools, daycare to pay for Trump's border wall

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  1. Nunya D.

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    If you find out HOW Trump (or in reality, the SoD) was able to divert those funds, you might see how diverting them for other causes might be more difficult than you think.
     
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    And bans meat? Don't worry, we will make sure the Electorate is well versed on the Left's crazed "Climate" agenda.

    THE LEFT WANTS THE RIGHT TO SHUT UP. THE RIGHT WANTS THE LEFT TO JUST . . . KEEP TALKING.

    CNN’s 7-Hour ‘Climate Change’ Town Hall was a man-made disaster for Democrat presidential candidates.

    “It’s AOC’s party now: A self-parody of what Green New Deal woke totalitarianism sounds like, with an abnormal focus on meat.”​
     
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    We are going to secure our borders. If these projects are important to the Europeans, they can kick in the dough, if they are not important to the Europeans, why should we prioritize them over securing our own border?
     
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    Good Post !

    Dirty Don is most crooked inept ever !!

    All for a Political Stunt ............
     
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    Well, would you rather have our troops sitting on the border or let a wall do its job? This is from a veteran that never relished sitting in battle gear in 100° heat.
    Oh, I forgot the alt-lefties hate the military and any form of law enforcement.
     
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    I'm going to have to stop you here....

    I have a great deal of respect for the military, and I'm grateful for everyone who has served, but that's where the buck stops.

    People who have served in the military are not automatically somehow "more patriotic" than those who have not served. That's just the bullsh*t claim which some anti-America ex-military folks like to pull out of their asses periodically when they don't have a leg to stand on in a debate.

    If someone presents views which are anti-America, or they support programs which are not in America's best interest, or they obstruct proposals which would be to America's benefit ---- I'm going to assume they're not very patriotic or pro-America, regardless of their past military service.

    Likewise there are some very patriotic, great Americans who have not served in the military.

    Sorry, but military service alone does not determine how patriotic a person is, so y'all can cut that crap out already.
     
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    I've seen vet friends virtue signalling their patriotism on social media (in a cringy fashion), all the while knowing that the only reason they joined was due to the fact that they couldn't find a job and were offered a bonus for signing.
     
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    I don't have a problem with wall or whatever you want to call it where it's needed, but I am not for taking from our service members and their families for Trump to make his base think he is actually doing something.
    ......and yet it is righties that are wanting to take from our service members to make the CHOSEN ONE feel good. Smfh.
     
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    Military service damn sure shows that you have made a sacrifice for this country that the ones who claim to be so Patriotic haven't.
     
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    Irrelevant why they did it, they did it. It's not like the ones who say, "oh I wanted to join."
     
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    No military service service alone is not necessarily the measure of whether someone is patriotic. You know what else does not make someone patriotic ? I will tell you. Disagreement with a Trumpian wish or one of his policies does not make someone unpatriotic.

    Specifically since we are discussing the stealing of funds from the military to pay for a campaign promise you are very wrong to accuse anyone of being unpatriotic or unAmerican who opposes steeling from the military to pay for a campaign promise.

    You also are wrong if you accuse one of us who oppose that wall of stupidity because a wall alone is not a viable security measure. I for example have said that walls have their place in high density crossing points. Instead of a Maginot Line wall I have called for more surveilence drones, more border guards, razor wire, barbed wire, quick action border response teams, and more motorized patrols, and more resources for the Coast Guard to interdict drug runners, and more electronic detections systems and more drug detection systems.

    My opposition to a wall that will not be effective as a security deterant does notin any way make me unAmerican or un-Patriotic. One's opposition to using American taxpayer funds and steeling from our military to pay for a foolish, childish, campaign promise by an egotistical toddler does not render me unAmerican or unpatriotic.

    You know who very well may be unpatriotic? Those who believed the Toddler that Mexico will pay for his wall.
     
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    Says the people who just spent $15 billion to take care of this years illegal aliens, instead of spending $10 billion on a one time cost that ends the yearly cost.

    You want money for US citizens? Take the money back being spent on illegals.

    And this is coming from someone who served in the military.
     
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    Excellent post Superbad! Agree agree It pizzees me off more than anything when some guy says "I wanted to serve but..". Fill in the blank "_______\\".
    " have bone spurs", " the war ended", " my cousin served three tours in Nam", ....
     
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    No, they have not, and, no, they won't
     
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    Except walls work, and the Maginot Line wasn't a wall.
     
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    We will have agree to disagree that just walls work.
     
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    I liked the Democrats better when they were strong supporters of unions and advocated for working people against greedy financial institutions, environmental protection and equal rights. Hopefully they will get back to those principles. Several of their present candidates appear to be moving in that direction.

    Today’s Republican Party has definitely lost their direction which used to be based on sound fiscal policy and traditional values. Now they spend like drunken sailors and are headed up by a misogynistic skirt chaser who has no respect for women, working Americans or immigrants. Still there are some solid conservatives hanging on in the party waiting to take over for the present pack of louses who are now in power.
     
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    30 foot walls are fine everywhere. A ladder isn't going to help.

    Yuma is not a "high density" area either.
     
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    Climate change is not an emergency or a threat to our nation. Al gore and Obama don't even thinks so.
     
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    A wall costs vastly more than $10B. A wall has no effect on illegal immigration, as the vast majority of illegals do not cross illegally. A 30ft wall is also quite easily circumvented. We would spend tens of billions on a wall, and still be spending $15B on illegals.

    As usual, conservative fiscal sense is non existent.
     
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    Not automatically more patriotic, but they always are more patriotic in my experience.

    In this particular thread serving military or vets are obviously more qualified to comment on an alleged curtailment of military benefits that you are.
     
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    A wall does not cost vastly more than what we spend now on illegal immigration.

    Period T.

    You must have missed the part where they weren't circumventing 15 foot walls in San Diego. 90%+ reduction in illegal entries when that wall was built.

    If walls weren't effective, we wouldn't live behind them.
     
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    It costs more than 3 times as much.



    Yea, they just crossed somewhere else.
    Most don’t. Walls aren’t effective at keeping people out.

    The facts remain, a wall would have no effect on illegal immigration, as the vast majority are not crossing the border illegally. Spending tens of billions on a wall that would have no effect on the problem, is total incompetence. Which of course means republicans love it.
     

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