People Who Refuse To Donate Their Organs Should Be Banned From Recieving One

Although I am an "organ donor", I do not want any type of surgery performed upon me. Death is the answer for me before surgery. Lead (Pb) before knives as a clever analogy to "Forks over Knives".

 

No type of surgery? So you would rather die than receive life saving surgery?

 

You are still incorrect. I asked many friends and family about your ridiculous assertion and they said you were wrong. So therefore you are wrong, because I know more about this country than anyone else.

 

is a bit different from other civilized first world countries

"No type of surgery? So you would rather die than receive life saving surgery?"

I would rather die and will my money to my inheritors than pay 1 million US dollars to a physician to "save my life". If my body fails or I get shot or stabbed, death is the answer - not surgery. I'm not into being crippled. Full speed ahead or dead.

 

US health care sucks but I don't think people should be worried about having surgery!

 

oh? Well, if your friend said so... that changes everything.

uh huh. Your friend have an opinion on that assertion?

 

I asked my relatives. They know I pay tax.

You are yet to inform me why I have to submit a tax return if I pay no taxes. As I said, someone who earns what I do per year MUST pay taxes. Obviously this fact you choose to ignore.

 

I imagine the law requires you to submit it, we have similar laws here.

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In 2009, Australia had a population of 21 million and spent $338 billion. The Australian government costs $16,000 per person. A person who puts $2,578 in the pot and takes out $16,000 isn't paying taxes. They are receiving them.

Order a cheeseburger at McDonalds. When the clerk requests payment, hand them 15% of the price and suggest they collect the remainder from the next customer -- then demand the cheeseburger that you believe you've paid for. If you have problems, remind them that you asked your relatives and they know you paid for your cheeseburger. If you get away with it, you have a thief at the register.

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That means every single person in this country is relying on the government to take care of them. A nation of welfare cheats. Gimme a break.

 

The law requires you to submit a tax return if you pay tax. I pay tax. I do not receive anything from the government, despite the fact you seem to think I do. You are not an expert on my country and I like to think the people in my country, and those in the know, would know more about how things work that someone who lives tens of thousands of miles away.

 

It means that those who are paying less than $16,000 per person are living at the expense of those who are paying more than $16,000 per person. If you imagine everyone in your country is paying less than $16,000 -- where do you think the government is getting the money it's spending?

You already got a break, it cost $13,422.

 

You received the same rights and privileges your government provided every citizen of your country equally. In 2009, Australia had a population of 21 million who collectively spent $338 billion to provide those rights and privileges. The Australian government costs $16,000 per person. A person who puts $2,578 in the pot and takes out $16,000 isn't paying taxes. They are receiving them.

Then you will be refraining from commenting on American politics in the future?

 

If every Australian gets the same as I do, why focus on me?
I pay taxes, I have said that before. If I get anything at from the government, I don't see it, and whatever I get, everyone else gets as well.

The government doesn't pay me $16,000. I don't take the money from them, they likely spend it on us voluntarily.

 

Perhaps there is ore to the story!
I personally would not give consent to removal of my or anyone else's body in my family!
1. The donor must be alive.
2. The correct procedures to identify that the donor is brain dead are not always carried out!
3. There has been times when "donor" have made a full recovery!
4. Doctors are not god... they make mistakes.... but not with my loved one's!

But then again I don't agree with taking the easy way out or abdicate my responsibilities as some would!!
It makes me angry to think that people only look on the surface of possibilities and make things black and white and emotive decisions and issues!!

Regards
Highlander

 

disagree that is like taking food stamps out of the mouth of people who don't pay taxes, if people are charitable enough to donate their organs others who are less fortunate should benefit from it

a solution would be that government force everyone who dies prematurely to own their deceased body and harvest organs from it for the greater good

 

^I don't agree. If someone is perfectly healthy but they refuse to donate their organs, what right do they have to expect an organ from someone else? Sign up to the register or you get nothing.

 

They have no rights morally but its governments responsibility to be the moral police and force everyone to donate their organs, just as it forces people to pay taxes for those who don't work and want to be housed and fed with welfare and food stamps.

 

oh ok!! so you dont' use the road, you don't use utilities that the government subsidizes...the schools paid for with taxes, the hospitals, the mail facilities..

 

I use the road, and I pay taxes.

 

OH I HAVE A GREAT IDEA. Everyone who is on food stamps or welfare must be on a donor list.

 

Well my mom gave this reason for not being an organ donor. Looking at it now it seems rather irrational but who knows. She didn't want to set herself up as an organ donor for fear that if she should be in an accident and some criminal doctor saw that she was an organ donor would let her die and steal her organs and sell them on the black market for a lot of money or something like that. But I dunno if things like that really happen or not.

 

This is a joke right?

"If someone has never donated to a food shelter, should we refuse to provide them food and just let them and their kids starve"?

I thought liberalism was altruistic. This sounds more like Ayn Rand to me.

Plus the same would have to apply to people who choose not to work, but want taxpayer funded food stamps.

 

I have pledged to donate, period.

My hope/wish is to help someone when I am gone (if practical), it makes no difference to me what their/anyone's personal decision is about donating.

 

I think probably a lot of people are unaware of the organ donation program if you can call it that. I've noticed a lot of people, in particular obama voters don't know about a lot of stuff.