Pics: Fired up voters report long lines in GOP-heavy areas

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  1. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    Says who and why? And if Obama is "favored" in a certain state or states, that means Romney cannot pull an upset and have the same number of paths to victory? Do you have a logical answer to offer, or will you just offer another personal attack when asked to back up your assertion with logic?

    Let's face it, you're just parroting what you hear the "experts" say, but really have no idea.

    Just admit it and move on.

    Actually.... MAN UP.
     
  2. raytri

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    The polls. The only actual data we have.
     
  3. raytri

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    The polls. You know, the only actual non-anecdotal evidence we have?

    Um, an upset is, by definition, a surprise. So yes, if you want to say something silly like "Well, I think the actual vote will swing toward Romney by 3-5 percentage points, giving him a landslide", you can. It certainly could happen; but the odds are akin to drawing an inside straight.

    When talking about *likely* paths to victory, Romney has fewer of them. Obama needs no upsets to win; he just needs to perform in line with the polling. Indeed, he can *underperform* his polling to a certain extent and still win. That means there are more possible scenarios that end in an Obama win. The only ones that end in a Romney win all involve him overperforming his polls in multiple states.
     
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    I see. So now you've moved the goal post to "likely" paths to victory.

    Your concession is noted.

    So.... show me one path to victory Obama has that Romney doesn't.
     
  5. raytri

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    Oh good God.

    Any path that involves winning California.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I give you Reagan and Schwartzenegger.~~~~~~~

    Don't forget there's a huge tax issue on the ballot there.
     
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    Which polls? The ones with 11 states inside the margin of error, or the ones that have a +8% to +11% Democrat turnout advantage baked in? I just want to know why you have such unfounded confidence to the point that you are stating this Obama advantage as fact.
     
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    Anyone who thinks Romney has a snowball's chance in California cannot be reasoned with.
     
  10. raytri

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    The idea that the polls are systematically oversampling Democrats has been debunked so many times I'm not going to do it again.

    Could the polls be off as a group? Yes. But so far the theories advanced to support that idea have been crap -- predicated on any number of false assumptions, the most notable one being that pollsters base their turnout models on 2008.

    Obama leads in the polls in more than enough states to reach 270 EV. Disbelieve the polls if you want; but just admit you're engaging in faith-based analysis.
     
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    now that's some funny ship
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see you don't like it when somebody does the same thing to you. Now stop lying.
     
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    I heard a good one today.

    My Dad voted his whole life as a Republican until his death in 1999. He's been voting Democrat ever since.
     
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    [video=youtube;SKm5xQyD2vE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE[/video]

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    Because the facts said it was. Hope you learned something here.
     
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    Maybe they'll learn not to put their faith on Faux News - Faux News viewers still had hope even after Ohio was given to Obama by Faux News! [​IMG]
     

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