Plane or No Plane?

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  1. NAB

    NAB Active Member

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    I'll do it the moment you produce some evidence the planes actually weren't there.

    Once you do that, I'll produce sworn affidavits from a few of the thousands of people who saw the impacts with their very own eyes.

    Go.
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    irellevant you have not show the fake videos to be real
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    already posted need help wtching or understanding it?
     
  4. NAB

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    Are you referring to that dumbass video of yours? That's your proof?

    I guess you didn't bother watching the vid I posted. Watch each and everyone of those clips, especially the ones with the actual people in the foreground.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiEgwLQVJk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiEgwLQVJk[/ame]
     
  5. BullsLawDan

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    The no plane people are a disgrace.

    Invariably, they live in some (*)(*)(*)(*)hole flyover state, and haven't even been to NY, and are incapable of wrapping their head around the fact that thousands of people, if not tens of thousands, started staring at WTC as soon as the first plane hit.

    Hundreds of people heard the noise and saw the first one hit. Tens of thousands saw the second one hit. It's asinine to think that there were no planes and that, out of tens of thousands of people who actually witnessed the attacks live in person, not one of them has come forward to say there were no planes.
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    awesome!

    then lets see those certified affidavits that I am sure are on file.

    being an attorney in all I am sure you know what that means.
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Uh-uh slick,You're the one demanding proof of a widely seen public event with thousands of witnesses..YOU fetch the affidavits
     
  8. Hunter Rose

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    Lots of people witnessed the crashes on teevee, and many (including a few here) claim to know someone who claims to be a live eyewitness.

    I have yet to meet anyone anywhere who can say with 100% certainty that they actually witnesses any plane strike any building. Actors on teevee, maybe, but that's all.

    I didn't come here to convince anyone of anything. I suggested we look at the video together and comment on what we witness. Is no one willing to do so?

    In my opinion, the focus of the discussion is what is seen and heard in the video.

    For instance, you did not post up a video link or segment, either by way of a still or by way of, say, a time segment from the All 43 video supporting your claim.

    Would you consider doing that so that the focus remains on what the video data shows? Mind you, I am not here saying you must do this as clearly I have no right to do that. I am merely requesting you consider doing so; as, in so doing, the fcous is on the video and not on each other's "beliefs."
     
  9. Hunter Rose

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    This is at least closer to the intetion of the thread. NAB, take a look at the video I posted and share with us your thoughts on the first few (I posted stills to help out). What do you witness in these video clips?
     
  10. Hannibal

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    I witness I passenger jet flying into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. In ALL 43.

    I also see someone smirking over the horrible deaths of innocent people.

    What exactly do YOU see?
     
  11. since1981

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    Should we just believe what our govt-controlled media tells us, and never ask any questions?
     
  12. Hannibal

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    No. Should we believe every theory that comes along, regardless of how ludicrous?
     
  13. since1981

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    Well, I don't think all of the theories mentioned are all that out-of-place, but I've read your comments, and I do think that YOU are very one-sided in this entire 9/11 section of the forum. I think that you believe what your TV tells you.
     
  14. Hannibal

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    I believe what the evidence tells me. As for this particular thread's theory: it's insane.
     
  15. BullsLawDan

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    I do. Do you know what judicial notice means? It means when something is so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing obvious to anyone with a brain, it doesn't need a "certified affidavit."

    Typical 9/11 Denier tactic: Ask for specific form of evidence for something that's obvious, and then claim a "victory" when that specific form is not forthcoming.

    Do you ask for a "certified affidavit" when the weather channel tells you the sun is going to come up tomorrow morning?
    (Answer: Of course you do. You're certifiable, we know that)

    I have yet to meet anyone anywhere who can say they personally, in person, witnessed the Steelers play the Packers in the last Super Bowl.

    According to your "logic," that means I should doubt what I saw on TV. I should doubt the NFL website and the sports almanacs that have the boxscores.

    Moronic. Absolutely moronic.
     
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    Yes. The CEO of my company in 2001 was actually there.

    I'm happy you're not trying to convince anybody because it's not something that is even fodder for consideration.

    You should go to this site:

    http://letsrollforums.com

    That group of yokels thinks nobody died on 9/11 from the attacks. I believe you'll fit in nicely there.
     
  17. Hunter Rose

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    Well, again you have hearsay. Someone claims to know someone who claims to be a live eyewitness.

    I have yet to meet anyone anywhere who can say with 100% certainty that they actually witnesses any plane strike any building. Actors on teevee, maybe, but that's all. Checkout my thread on Dick Oliver, for example.

    I didn't come here to convince anyone of anything. I suggested we look at the video together and comment on what we witness. Is no one willing to do so?

    In my opinion, the focus of the discussion is what is seen and heard in the video.

    For instance, you did not post up a video link or segment, either by way of a still or by way of, say, a time segment from the All 43 video supporting your claim.

    Would you consider doing that so that the focus remains on what the video data shows? Mind you, I am not here saying you must do this as clearly I have no right to do that. I am merely requesting you consider doing so; as, in so doing, the focus is on the video and not on each other's "beliefs."
     
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    this thread is silly....no sane person can deny that in front of thousands of people,two 767's hit each of the WTC towers
     
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    The only thing stupider is the no building theory.
     
  20. Hunter Rose

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    It appears that all the posters here want to do is hand wave away evidence.

    Take note, lurkers!
     
  21. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You need to post some 'evidence' before we can wave it away........I'll say it again.....'Dr' Judy Wood is bereft of anything resembling common sense, and numerous people have pointed this out
     
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    Please show me the evidence that proves the existence of a directed energy weapon that can cause the damage you claim.
     
  23. BullsLawDan

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    You haven't posted any.

    Protip: Unsupported statements containing in some cases laughable inaccuracies, which show more than anything your utter ignorance of that national tragedy and of basic science, are not "evidence."
     
  24. Hunter Rose

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    I see that the posters here wish to ignore the topic and misdirect into a different argument. That's fine.

    Can anyone here provide evidence of any kind of planes crashing at the WTC? Not what you saw on teevee, or what your "friend" or "boss" told you. Let's hear your first hand stories.

    In the interest of brevity, please limit this thread to the WTC. You can start another one on the other sites of interest and if I find them compelling, I will comment.
     
  25. LoneStrSt8

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    Why do WE have to provide proof to you of something the entire WORLD saw happen ,and accepted as real?


    It's up to YOU to prove there were no planes....so far all you've done is whine a lot.
     

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