Planned Parenthood's former president says she was instructed to say 'abortion' in every interview.

It's human. It's not a cat or a dog or a plant or a frog or anything else other than a human. And It's alive. And if allowed to grow will become a full fledge adult in 25 years.

Your toe will not grow into a full grown adult in 25 years. I mean...if you need me to explain the difference between your toe and a baby then your understanding of biology is even more broken than I had originally thought. lol!

Oh no ma'am. Someone has too. The problem here is you are asking the doctor to take responsibility by murdering that which you willfully created.

There is only one. Count em! ONE method of getting pregnant. Last I checked it can't happen if it's stuck up your ass or down your throat or rubbed in your hands or on your tits. Biology 101. If you elect to have sex in the ONE way that can result in getting pregnant, then the consequences of that choice were willfully committed by you, the participant. If you didn't want to get pregnant then you could have opted to have sex in the many other ways one can that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to create another person. So ya. You willfully made that choice. Just because you didn't like the results of that choice shouldn't give you the right to murder that which you willfully created.

If I could hold men as accountable for their actions of just pumping semen into anything that breathes without a thought about the consequences, I would[/QUOTE]



WHY?


Why do you want to hold anyone accountable?

Who TF do you think you are?

Why are you so desperate to control others ?

Yes,..the pregnancy is their responsibility....NOT YOURS.... what TF can't you get about that.


I stated :
Tax deductions for ZEFs ?
With rights come restrictions....NO one is allowed to use another's body to sustain their life, YOU want a ZEF to have more rights than women which is quite misogynistic(and not a surprise)..
IF a ZEF is ever deemed a legal person then the woman has every right to kill it as it's harming her without her consent.
Now, I think you would approve of women being harmed without their consent but it IS against the law.

And you "answered " with something about your morals and tinder and never addressed what I wrote....funny that...did an Enter key scare you as a child so you can't address any FACTS ever???

 

Do you mess **** up and then expect others to clean up after you where ever you go? You are not advocating for the mother to take responsibility. You are advocating for the doctor to take responsibility. The responsible action would have been to have not created the baby in the first place. The responsible action would be to avoid the one, COUNT EM! ONE method of sexual intercourse that can result in conceiving a baby.

There is no responsibility taken by the mother who elects to have an abortion. That's exactly the OPPOSITE of taking responsibility.

Grow up!

Actions have consequences. And human life, and the ability to create it is a very powerful and precious thing that shouldn't be abused. It is immoral to willfully create a child knowing you want to just kill it. Do humanity a favor and either get to like giving blow jobs or start taking it up the ass.

 

You say one thing, pregnancy is the responsibility of the one who got pregnant and then FLIP FLOP and back banning abortion....as if the pregnancy is YOUR responsibility.

You say : """"People are free to have sex, but they need to deal with the consequences of it if any arise"""

but then YOU want to "deal" with it by banning abortion...( and by "people" you mean women, the objects of your need to control others)

A pregnant woman DOES deal with the consequences of HER actions whether she has an abortion or gestates...

 

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. Righties have this really weird need to control others even to controlling how they have sex!!!

 

Thank you for admitting that Anti-Choicers purpose is to punish women for having sex.


...however, women won't stop having sex any way and any time they want ...and they ignore those who desperately need to control other people's sex lives..

 

This was a great summary of Anti-Choicers....worth repeating

 

We have this really weird need to hold people accountable for their actions. It's crazy!

 

Nobody is punishing women for having sex. I would hold men as equally accountable for being irresponsible with sticking their dicks into any moist hole they can. But unfortunately biology leaves women holding the bag so to speak and that makes them the last line of responsibility in understanding the consequences of their actions and choices.

And I've said it now almost half a dozen times. I don't care if you have sex. But if you don't want a baby, you should be responsible enough to avoid the ONE sex act that results in creating a baby. Shocker! I know.

Take it up the ass, hun.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
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. Righties have this really weird need to control others even to controlling how they have sex!!!

No, what I clearly stated was :Righties have this really weird need to control others even to controlling how they have sex!

 

Not now...but Anti-Choicers want abortion banned...meaning they want women punished with FORCED gestation for having sex and getting pregnant.

AND YOU stated: """I think we have become completely immoral with regards to the responsibilities and consequences of having sex (or should I say the one way of having sex that can result in reproduction). This action has consequences. NEGATIVE consequences of which there should be a punishment. """

(bolding mine)

Most misogynists use very crude language to describe sex.....

 

Never have met a “pro abortion “ person. And when you say a person is responsible for a pregnancy, you are right, and that person makes a responsible decision whether to take that pregnancy to term. So what’s the problem?

 

Equating abortion with murder is the logical flaw in your argument. Abortion is not murder, has never been called murder and will never become murder. At least until we enter a theocracy that is or Roe is repealed and religious states make it so on a state by state level. When that day comes, we will have returned to the past, a dark and horrid chapter in human history.

 

So dark and horrible it is to be responsible over your own actions.

So shock. So horror.

I'm scared.

 

No. It is murder. I mean you can pretend you are not ending a human life in the process but that's exactly what is happening. You've convinced yourself that the action isn't what it is so that you can have a clear conscious as you selfishly go about creating human life all willy nilly never being asked to be responsible for abusing the power to create life.

I especially adore how protective you are about not letting women who are looking for an abortion to get an image scan of what's inside them to see exactly what it is they are killing.

I mean that indicates awareness as to what the action is. I'd go one step further and force the woman to hold the child in their hands so they can see EXACTLY what it is that they have done.

 

I mean if you can stomach listening in detail as to what is involved in the procedure and what you, the selfish **** are asking a third party to do so that you do not have to face the responsibility of your own actions...you are morally bankrupt.

Imagine listening to a doctor describing sawing and ripping a baby limb by limb and vacuuming those parts out and not having a care in the world about it? You think these actions do not weigh in on his conscious? Cleaning up YOUR mess? Committing murder on your behalf so that you can go on your next debauchery romp care free without any responsibility?

What a joke.

 

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So why haven't you done your civic, legal, and moral duty and called the police???

 

Why do you think doctors are FORCED to perform abortions ? They aren't.

 

Spare me the puritanical blathering, making women your personal brood stock is indeed horrible.

 

Repeat after me: the zygote is not a human being until it becomes a human being. When does it become a human being? When it is viable outside of the womb or roughly the third trimester. That still does not define what a human being is but its the line drawn by Roe and it seems to work. When you can define a human being let your local philosophy department know, they will hire you on the spot.

 

Oh yes you are forcing them to be your brood stock, why not make them moo at will while you are at it.

 

Why the third trimester? Let's get back to that one.

First off, a fetus remains comparable to a zygote for roughly 4 days. But the growth of the fetus is incredibly fast as the new person's cells divide thousands of times. How many abortions are done within the first 4 days of pregnancy? Hell I doubt a woman even knows she's pregnant during that time let alone arranging for an abortion. <Rule 2>

 

No. As in my question at face value. How would you enforce abortion laws? Your challenge is getting around the internet, abortion drugs, and medical tourism. You will not be able to make a case that abortion laws could prevent a single abortion or that society would be better off.

 

Why do you think women are so stupid that they don't know what "pregnant" means?

 

As I said, it is a line that seems to work well because defining when a fetus becomes a legally protected human being separate from the mother is a frigging hard thing to do and completely subjective. It was a wise decision. Dividing cells do not define a human being. Is a heart being transported to a willing patient a human being by itself? Nope. Is a brain dead person, someone with no functioning brain at all a human being? They sure look like one and once were but now they are just vegetables without any brain activity. Do you want to keep them alive forever because they look like a human being? All these types of issues come into play once you start trying to define what a human being is, its not easy.

 

Is it human? Is it alive? Will it grow into an adult if allowed to? If all these answers are yes...then it is a human being. Because if you decide that it ISN'T a human, then you are suggesting that a person who is growing and developing is less of a human than that of a full grown adult. And we don't do that. And you will defend this concept by bringing to me some arbitrary definition of human being that relies on the development of some attribute. This will be completely subjective, devoid of reality and used as a tool to allow you the ability to continue being selfish and irresponsible with your ability to create life while leaning on the ability to get an abortion as a means of birth control.

That's the reality of what it is you are trying to do here.

The answer is simple. It starts at conception. At conception is exactly when your DNA is mapped out as to who you are going to grow into. And at that point it's just a matter of time and development. Development which doesn't end until we are around 25 years of age. And we do not dare suggest that someone who ISN'T fully grown and fully developed as being "less human".