Pope Francis Congratulated Putin on His Election Victory,

I think if Johnson allows any bill to come to the floor that includes ukraine (kickback) funding, he will be removed as speaker like McCarthy.

No doubt it would probably pass since there are so many bought-and-paid for scumbag Representatives and Senators.

 

Combat will not stop for negotiations. Never again. That ship has sailed with the 2014 to 2022 Minsk Accord lies by the West. Peacekeepers, aid workers and whatever were there for 2014 to 2022 yet that didn't stop the Azov nazis from killing Donbass ukrainians.

 

With respect, HOW do you KNOW that??

Not sure why the POPE would congratulate Putin for a staged "election" after he removed any competition. Why bother voting when there is only one person running?? The only "choice" is NOT to vote at all if you don't want that one candidate.
The Pope should have kept quiet on that one. (IF what is stated is true)

 

Hopefully the Donbass Ukrainians picked up some rifles from the field to self-perform their own peacekeeping operations.

This war needs to stop. Neither peotecting Ukrainian sovereignty nor killing Ukrainian nazis is worth WW3.

 

I never said or even intimated that we 'wash our hands of Ukraine."

I didn't read the rest.

 

I've been there and strongly disagree.

 

And liars generalize......all the time.

 

Just like the American right 'knows' the 2020 election was 'rigged".

 

Most of our elections are rigged.

 

Indeed !!

 

How contrary of you.

 

There is that .. but also that people are so stupid to be unaware of the general Fog of war principle .. one side is almost always lying and often it is both sides -- such that listening to either the participants in a conflict should be done with big measure of skepticism.

but, always remembering that the Pentagon's Job is to Lie to the American People .. to manufacture consent for what ever conflict we are engaged in .. and every war that I can remember they have lied like crazy .. every time. .. so horrible track record.

 

What puzzles me is how much can we provoke Russia before we get
some tactical nuclear response.

There will be a warning first of course, several, and total skepticism
from the State Dept and Whitehouse, and most likely from the Pentagon
too, before an actual strike.

That's been the pattern for many years. Back in 1961 the Pentagon
wanted Cuba bombed to remove the missiles. President Kennedy
took a radically different approach and negotiated, and the USSR
removed the missiles from Cuba and then we kept our word on that
occasion and removed our missiles from Turkey.

 

International politics is not a good place for popes to go. They should stick with operating the church.

 

Given that Francis is a communist, why wouldn't he be pleased that Putin was elected?

 

And there will be ridicule from our side, "his button isn't even connected",
that sort of thing, and a claim that Putin is crazy, or that he totally refuses
to negotiate - a particularly grievous lie because Putin has been trying to
negotiate about Ukraine from back in 2008.

In his PR speech Biden claimed Pres. Putin had repeatedly refused to
negotiate.

The Gen Sec. of NATO admitted Putin had negotiated at least had made
an offer, that Ukraine must not join NATO or host NATO weapons, and
that was the only demand of Russia at that time.

 

Except that the US President and State Department and many leaders of
European countries as well, are lying so somebody with some followers
has to step in and tell the truth.

WW1 could have been prevented if the Church of England, which had a lot
of political power, had told the truth, but it lied and backed up the government
and as the established church it was pretty much required to do that.

The Pope is not similarly constrained, so if there is a chance to prevent a
nuclear war he is obliged to tell the truth if it will prevent the war.

 

You figure Francis is a Brown Shirt from way back !? ( and do learn chess notation) Ha ha ha .. that may well be true as the Universal Church never liked much the Jew .. but you got your political affiliations mixed up.. the Brown Shirts were not the Communists .. they were the Nazi.. and so why would our Dear Pope not be rooting for the Azov Nazi. ?

but .. Russia is no longer communist - so this is perhaps why Pope is happy for a functional democratic process instead of communism.

 

Hmmm .. I must agree that while often not the case .. your assertion is true .. and kudo's for that .. for Jesus say -- my kingdom is not of this world -- Give to Ceasar what is his .. and me what be mine == don't be putting church and state together .. No Sharia Law in this Realm

but he did congratulate Heir Vlad --- on functional democratic process .. be that as it may.

 

Who cares about a fake election?

 

What translator program did you use for this? As a cleric in Argentina, before he became pope, he was Father/Bishop/Arch Bishop/ and then Cardinal Bergoglio. Are you suggesting that you think he was a Nazi? and not a communist? Lots of evidence he was a socialist sympathetic of communism. Not sure you've provided any linkage to being a Nazi. In any case, are you inferring that the dictator in the Ukraine is a Nazi? I don't really get your line of reasoning here. The comedian of Ukraine is turning out to be quite the little dictator though. And while mr Putin certainly was "elected", it's like saying the old Soviet politburo were "elected"... I don't think Putin ever stopped being a communist. Do you?

 

And what truth is that?

You conjured all that up because I suggested the Pope's job is operating the church rather than meddling in international politics?

 

Pope Francis is held to a far higher standard than any politician would be.
For example, how many politicians can you name who lied to start wars?
Over 99% of both houses of Congress voted to attack Vietnam and again
over 99% of both houses voted for war in Afghanistan.

The Pope has to get this right and the decision has to be viewed as right
in 20 years time, long after Biden has become just a history lesson on how
to get things wrong.

The future and reputation of the Catholic Church rests on the Pope getting
this right.

And there are examples of how bad it can be for a church to get big
decisions wrong, the Church of England, particularly in England, appears
to be dying out. They were promoting World War 1, and that has not
been forgotten. And in the US the mainstream churches favored the
war in Vietnam, and now the churches that didn't are doing a lot
better.

 

It worked out a little differently:

Russia did not refuse,
Ukraine refused but was promised all the weapons the US and
the West could supply, so Ukraine got all the weapons it wanted.

To everyone's surprise, despite having only 3.5% of the GDP of NATO,
Russia made more artillery shells in particular than all of NATO combined.

So Zelenskyy got it wrong.

 

Russia isn't communist .. regardless of Putin's predilections. The Catholic Church was on the side of the Nazi's .. far more so than the Commies in WW2.
Here is a link for you to enjoy ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_clergy_involvement_with_the_Ustaše

I did not say anything about the current dictator in Ukraine.. but Ukraine is the home of the Azov Nazi's

Your claim about Russian Elections is spaghetti at the wall nonsense .. Putin is hugely popular in Russia .. no clue what translator program you are talking about.