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Are you saying Trump didn't try and get a deal? He offered DACA a pathway to citizenship(not that I agreed with that) But the Black Caucus refused to give up their Diversity Visa Lottery and Chain Migration.

 

The Majority of Conservatives know walls/barriers work. As they know how to read data, stats, and are more in tune with reality.

 

Yes, and we already have 'em in place. Every mile we build out in the middle of nowhere blocks fewer and fewer illegal crossings. At some point you should come to the conclusion that the cost does not justify the return. This is how conservatives think. They don't simply parrot what is coming out of that fat RINOs mouth in the WH.

 

He walked away from the a deal of DACA for his border wall. He reneg'd on that deal and added additional hardline demands of reducing legal migration by 50%, eliminating family reunification, and altering VISAs.

 

Aren't working?

It's Week 4 of the shutdown. Most Americans still blame Trump and do not support the wall.

 

I think you are trying to make a point here.

 

I already gave you multiple sources with facts, data, and stats. You just choose to ignore data that doesn't confirm what you already believe.

As to your source (the Hill article), it cites a GAO report available here. The article is full of misrepresentation. For example, it claims the GAO report found undocumented immigrants committed 25,064 murders from 2003 - 2009. It then compared that to total murders in that period. The problem? The GAO report does NOT say that. It says undocumented immigrants committed 25,064 homicides, which include much more than murder. So the comparison in the article is apples to oranges and not relevant.

Furthermore, the GAO report also looked at a population of just 1,000 undocumented immigrants. If you read the appendices, you will find they admit the margin of error could be as high as 30%. Yikes.

So what about actual crime data? As I already provided, Texas (which does record undocumented status, by that way) has the best data. In 2016, 746 native-born Texans, 32 illegal immigrants, and 28 legal immigrants were convicted of homicide. In that year, the homicide conviction rate for native-born Americans in Texas was 3.2 per 100,000 natives while it was 1.8 per 100,000 illegal immigrants. Are you suggesting Texas law enforcement are all liberally biased and making up these numbers? Really?

 

Again, why are we not perusing programs that have shown to be effective? National e-verify, employer sanctions.

Oh I know - trump companies (the ones not already bankrupt atleast) would be severely impacted.

Why is an ineffective wall the sticking point that causes the country to shut down when the ones that are already here are costing so much money. We are trying to put a bandaid on a bullet wound that has done internal damage. You have to stop the bleeding, get the bullet out and then close the wound. Y’all are screaming do it in reverse order and the bandaid is the most important...

If you make it unattractive to live here the problem ends.

Why is this not the national emergency?

 

Actually the data isn't buried. Its available online and I already shared it with you. It comes from Texas law enforcement. Unless you want to argue Texas law enforcement are a bunch of liars who have bought into some liberal agenda. Good luck with that.

 

He walked away after the Black Caucus would not give up the Diversity Visa Lottery and Chain Migration. After they turned down giving the Dreamers a Pathway to citizenship.


Trump: 'Democrats Do Not Want to Solve DACA' - CNS News
https://www.cnsnews.com/.../trump-democrats-do-not-want-solve-daca
Americans want to keep our border secure, end chain migration and the visa lottery program. Short said the Trump White House is "anxious to get a deal," but it's up to Democrats to make it happen. Some Democrats object to Trump's curbs on chain migration and his call to end the diversity visa lottery.

Senate Democratic negotiators are getting pushback from pro-immigrant activists and other base constituencies who worry they are poised to give too much away in a deal protecting “Dreamers.”

Democrats have signaled they are willing to consider proposals to rein in family-based migration and the diversity visa lottery to reach an agreement with the GOP.

But with Trump and other Republicans already indicating their desire to help those immigrants enrolled in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, some immigration activists fear the Democrats are ceding too much ground.

“The idea of the diversity lottery and family-based immigration being changed, that’s just not a serious offer. You’re asking for the moon and giving the smallest thing in return,” said Brent Wilkes, the CEO of the League of United Latin American Citizens.

He said his group would not support a DACA fix “that jeopardizes the security of our parents.”

“I cannot go into the house and say ‘we were able to protect me and my two sisters, but now you’ll have to live with more fear because there are more deportation agents out there,’ ” he added.

Democrats say they are moving ahead with the immigration talks after a meeting with Trump Tuesday at the White House, but offered mixed signals Wednesday on whether they plan to stick with the four elements of an agreement that were discussed.

But Senate Democratic Whip Dick (Ill.), who has a leading role in the talks, says negotiators are sticking with the four corners that were discussed......snip~

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/368435-left-fears-democrats-will-give-too-much-on-immigration


Your Democrats balked. Refused to give up Chain Migration and the Diversity Visa Lottery. You can thank your Black Caucus.

As Durbin stated....those 4 corners were always on the table. Blame your own kind.

 

He walked away from the a deal of DACA for his border wall. He reneg'd on that deal and added additional hardline demands of reducing legal migration by 50%, eliminating family reunification, and altering VISAs.

 

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When did they stop e-verify? Could you link that up?

What does Trump companies have to do with Border States. Answer.....not a damn thing. (is that TDS showing) Despite the majority of illegals being in 5 states and Texas as one of them.

Walls aren't ineffective.....as a matter of fact walls and fences are quite effective in causing the majority of people to move to other areas where there aren't any barriers. This is validated even by the UN Migration Center.

Even under Bilbo Clinton when they put up the fence and walls around San Diego, crossovers dropped 95%. Or are you now saying Bilbo and those Democrats lied to the nation?

 

Republicans want a DACA package that ends chain migration and the diversity visa lottery, …
From what I've read ( https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-dreamers_us_59fb2935e4b01b474048b787 ), Trump and Senate Republicans really want a DACA package that ends chain migration and the diversity visa lottery, which seem … read more
reddit.com/r/DACA · Nov 2, 2017


Not in 2017 he didn't, that was your kind that backed out and showed the Dreamers they didn't give a **** about them. That was your kind that ran away from solving a major problem. The Demos usual....always failing.

 

He walked away from the a deal of DACA for his border wall. He reneg'd on that deal and added additional hardline demands of reducing legal migration by 50%, eliminating family reunification, and altering VISAs.

 

The leftist publication and by an expert who actually investigates into the matter of illegals. One who the Left has used as an expert. Especially in California. Brings reality to the issue. That which the left has a very hard time with. Despite using that expert.

Yes your GAO looked at 1000 undocumented immigrants. Not breaking them down from Illegals who crossed over the border from those overstaying visas etc etc.


Illegal Aliens in AZ Commit Twice as Many Crimes as Legal ...
https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/illegal-aliens-az-commit-twice...
A new report from the Crime Prevention Research Center indicates that illegal aliens commit twice the number of crimes in Arizona than legal residents of the state, Attorney General Jeff …


The truth about illegal aliens and crime in America – Dr ...
https://drronmartinelli.com/2017/04/10/the-truth-about-illegal...
Only the states of Texas and Florida do illegal aliens commit less crimes than their legal alien counter parts (Texas with 54.5 illegals imprisoned per 100,000, compared to 65 legal immigrants and Florida with 55 illegals imprisoned, compared to 68 legal aliens).


NEW RESEARCH: The impact of illegal aliens on crime rates ...
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/impact-illegal-aliens-crime-rates
The Crime Prevention Research Center is proud to reveal new research that analyzes unique newly released data on crime rates by illegal aliens. ... we are able to separate non-U.S. citizens by whether they are illegal or legal residents. This data do not rely on self-reporting by criminals. ... If undocumented immigrants committed crime …

It Was All a Lie! Here’s the Truth About Illegal Aliens ...
investmentwatchblog.com/it-was-all-a-lie-heres-the-truth-about...
Here’s the Truth About Illegal Aliens and Crime Stats. December 22, 2017 ... Obama’s administration went for years without honestly trying to track the volume of crime committed by illegal immigrants in the US, and it’s pretty obvious that it was politically motivated

Illegal Immigrant Crime: The Real Story - Townhall
townhall.com › columnists › Katie Kieffer
Illegal Immigrant Crime: The Real Story ; Share ... illegal immigrants commit crime far more often than legal immigrants. ... any data on crimes committed by illegal immigrants is scarce at best …


Of course, the leftness doesn't considered Identity theft a serious crime. Which comes from a majority of illegals in this country. Vastly outdoing more than any other group leftists want to compare them with.

 

Come'on man.

https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/deliver...3115064103124015116007084097024094064&EXT=pdf

https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm

 

Wrong.....the Republicans always included the Diversity Visa Lottery and Chain Migration With Trump Offering the Dreamers a pathway to citizenship. Perdue and Cotton submitted the bill. Your Democrats balked and your Black Caucus refused to give up the Diversity Visa Lottery and Chain Migration citing those that came from African States.


Chain Migration | Californians For Population Stabilization
https://www.capsweb.org/categories/chain-migration
New Bill from Sens. Cotton and Purdue Would End Chain Migration, Diversity Visa Lottery On February 7, Senators Tom Cotton (R-AK) and Sonny Perdue (R-GA) introduced a bill which, if it becomes law, would fulfill one of the solutions advocated by Californians for Population Stabilizations to cut back soaring population growth and reduce over-immigration.

We Need to End Unchecked Chain Migration and Eliminate the ...
www.dhs.gov › News › Press Releases
We Need to End Unchecked Chain Migration and Eliminate the Reckless Visa Lottery to Secure the Nation and Protect the American Worker. Release Date: February 15, 2018. Our current immigration system does not protect American workers or our economy. The United States currently admits 1.1 million immigrants per year.

Sen. Perdue: Ending Chain Migration a ‘Top Priority’ for ...
https://freebeacon.com/issues/sen-perdue-ending-chain-migration...
Key feature of RAISE Act might be important trade for DACA amnesty. Perdue also made clear his opposition to the diversity visa lottery, a program which allocates visas to applicants "from countries with historically low rates of immigration to the United States.".

 

That is because most American don't know that the GOP house passed a bill to fund the wall, (Proving Pelosi and Schumer Lied saying the repubs wouldn't pass it) and that your Demos had to filibuster it to prevent McConnell from bringing it to the floor. But more are learning about it and know the Demos own this shutdown and are refusing to negotiate.

Refusing to Negotiate puts it all on the Demos.

 

You are 100% WRONG.

Trump owns the shutdown. Period.

Regurgitating RW BS "talking points" isn't going to change that.

But, feel free to keep posting that ludicrous RW BS.

I need some more laughs.

Thanks in advance.

 

The shutdown started a month ago...before the GOP controlled house passed that bill. You're telling me that Trump and the GOP have done such a piss poor of messaging that they still haven't talked about the wall funding?

 

Quote me where I said this. Go ahead.

I didn’t know we just wanted to shift them to other areas of the country. How absurd. It isn’t economically feasible to wall off the entire border and trumps demand sure won’t touch it. Over half of illegal immigration is visa overstays and a wall in no way addresses the ones here.

All of his border wall designs fails breach tests so what is he even proposing?

Source, not saying you are a liar but... wait, yes I am.

 

You are incorrect. The wall, combined with enforcement, will keep people out. Some illegal aliens are criminals. (If you don't consider illegally entering the US a crime) 100% of their crimes cannot be committed in the US if they are not here.

 

Trump refused to accept a Democrat led plan to open the government. Trump refused to accept a bipartisan led plan to open the government. Trump refused to accept a Republican led plan to open the government.

But I get why you want to blame Democrats. You are smarter than Trump.

Unfortunately for you, Trump's base are the only folks who agree that Democrats should bear most of the blame. And as we all learned in 2018, Trump's base is not enough.

 

Did the GOP House Pass a bill with the Funding Andy? Answer.....yes they did

Demos own the Shutdown. Senate Demos had to filibuster to prevent McConnell from taking it to the floor. They must have been worried that some Demos would flip.


Thanks for showing us that you don't know what the process is in stopping a bill that was passed.

 

Yes Trump would not accept a Demo Plan to open the government because they would not put funding in for the wall. Because Trump isn't playing their political headgame.

That CNBC called out the Democrats for.

CNBC Host Trashes Democrats Over Shutdown: They're Just …
4 days ago · CNBC host calls out Democrats for government shutdown: Nancy Pelosi & Chuck Schumer “could open the government any time… they just care about making a political point.” pic.twitter.com …

Now tell us again when CNBC became part of Trumps base. Try and spin that one.