President Trump's Tariffs on Steel Brings Life Back to Small Towns

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Granite City, IL steel factory hiring 1,000 and possibly more. United Steel Workers local 1899 President says laid off employees should be rehired with the possibility of new hires.

    Trump's plan is working out so far and its great news for American workers.


    President Trump's tariffs on steel and aluminum are bringing life back to America's steel towns. One America's Jonathan Blaisdell has more on how the president's tariffs are revitalizing middle America.
     
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    In this small steel town, Trump's tariffs have been met with a sigh of relief

    Affecting other industries too.
     
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    At best a temporary respite,steel like every other business will ultimately reside wherever it can be produced the cheapest with the most profit.Isn't that capitalism goal???
     
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    it's the corporitists goal
     
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    Its as temporary as the tariffs I suppose. If the tariffs are lifted then the business could shift back overseas.

    However, I did see a couple of articles where the tariffs are predicted to shut down the steel industry in the EU and it is already having significant effect in Canada. So, the effect may end up being long term or permanent, which will eventually start to have a net positive effect on US manufacturing.
     
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    Yep and boy does that bother the left.

    How much worse would it be for them if the unions start backing Trump?
     
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    Unions publicly supporting Trump would indicate a landslide in 2020. That said, unions are already split over him. I am a card carrying member of the CWA and the union politically endorses Democrats but the rank and file have a lot of Trump supporters. It's obvious on the facebook pages and when speaking to other techs.
     
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    yep, like high gas prices help states like Texas, course the raising costs of gas hurts almost everyone else

    this is a high stakes game Trump is playing, I agree with him on some of it, just wish he was not picking a fight with everyone at once - should of started with China

    I hope he has a plan and is not just trying to break everything and let other pick up the pieces
     
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    Raising the minimum wage puts upward pressure on food prices, yet, you are all for that.

    Trump: Let’s turn the China-tariff knob all the way up to $500 billion

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    “We have been ripped off by China for a long time.”

    And we've had enough. At one time Japan handled most of our low cost manufacturing and then we switched to China, and now China is having a massive military buildup on our dime, robbing us blind, building phony islands so they can arrogate control over sea routes, enough's enough. The world has far more 3rd world low cost manufacturers than they do first world consumers, and China's an environmental nightmare, we shouldn't do so much business with them. We should do more business with countries that have our labor and environmental standards.

    Trump notes that he could have a great stock-market boom if he simply ignored the trade deficits and cheating conducted by Beijing as his predecessors did, but he wants to fix this problem rather than kicking it down the road.

    How will he fix it? By slapping tariffs on every good and service imported from China if need be — all $505 billion of them:

    Trump weighs in on the trade war with China from CNBC.

    President Donald Trump has indicated that he is willing to slap tariffs on every Chinese good imported to the U.S. should the need arise.

    “I’m ready to go to 500,” the president told CNBC’s Joe Kernen in a “Squawk Box” interview. …

    By sheer dollar volume, the Chinese won’t be able to come close to the U.S. in a tit-for-tat battle. Trump’s comments point to a willingness to push the envelope as far as the U.S. needs to get Chinese tariff concessions, along with a pledge to stop stealing American technology.

    “I’m not doing this for politics, I’m doing this to do the right thing for our country,” Trump said. “We have been ripped off by China for a long time.
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    Trump has $200 billion in tariffs ready to roll out soon, which will hit high-tech companies hardest. That already would far outstrip the amount that China imports from the US at $129 billion — one of the issues that Trump wants fixed.
     
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    Our capabilities to produce such materials as aluminum and steel are also vital to our national security..
    Imagine if china cut us off from steel and we didn't have any factories left..
     
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    I am also for tariffs, just not on natural resources, but higher prices on natural resources like gas is not the same as a higher min wage

    American businesses need natural resources to build products

    when more people have good paying jobs, they buy more stuff

    min wage and Tarrifs are good, also taxing corps more that outsource our jobs overseas is good as it creates good paying jobs here

    Oil is a finite resource, I am all for using other countries natural resources before ours when it comes to oil
     
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    Well looks like you ascribe to the biotic origin theory of fossil fuels. That theory stood up well until we found lakes of methane on other planets and moons. Crude oil may be the remains of old life forms or it may be formed by the earth's crust, it which case, it's as common as dirt.
     
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    Congratulations! You just signed up to pay at least 4.5 million each for those steel jobs.

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    "The world has far more 3rd world low cost manufacturers than they do first world consumers, and China's an environmental nightmare, we shouldn't do so much business with them. We should do more business with countries that have our labor and environmental standards."

    Trump said that, this EPA Trump?
     
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    Such horseshit, what you posted in no way supports your outlandish claim.
     
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    it can be created from Algae, but we would have to ramp up production to meet the demands of the world

    as demands increase and supply dwindles, alternatives will need to be found, Algae is a place to look for sure
     
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    Sure it does. Do the math.
    Did you get your thank you note from US Steel?
     
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    Fantastical bullshit, but entertaining, so thank you.

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    You gave up very easily on this one. :)
     
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    Let me get this right, you want a net positive effect on our shoulders? That means you want harm your allies EU and Canada?

    Can you tell me what worth such an alliance has?
     
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    It doesnt bother you to harm your allies? To what extent do you plan to harm EU and Canada? It had no effect on the German steel industry yet, because we only sell special steel not produced in the USA but i want understand if you would see a limit how much you intend to harm your allies and if on other side you would compensate that by accepting positive effects on your allies. Or do you plan a pure parasitic "alliance"?
     
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    Free trade benefits all that are party to it.

    USA is headed into an inflationary spiral with a dumb POTUS who is interfering in matters he has no knowledge of.

    A doubling of US steel prices is the start of the spiral. Tariffs are a means of forcing buyers to buy from protected cartels.

    https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2013/09/06/why-did-the-economist-favour-free-trade

     
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    Those allies who want us to strip our citizens of their constitutional rights such as free speech and the right to bear arms, want us to import dangerous people who will be a welfare drag on our country as they have ruined theirs, want us to pay for all of their military protection..

    Yeah screw them..
     
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    The part of the equation you overlook is fair trade. It may be cheaper to make in china but if you have to pay more to get it back it, its still cheaper here. Case in point...Apple juice. Turn yours over...its made in china despite our numerous apple orchards here. Thats because of unfair trade.
     
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    What? You make no sense.

    Germany for example gives a **** about your internal politics, is the largest supplier of weapon for your citizens and various German Corporation applied to build the Wall to Mexico, which you unfortunately have not started yet.
     

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