Prevent another Holocaust?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So I'm watching Schindler's List, thinking to myself how would we ever prevent such a thing happening to the Jews again.

    There are millions of Jews in Europe. Millions of Jews in North America.

    If SHTF, anti-Semites could again take over and blame Jews for their problems.

    And since its happenned many times before, the forces of evil could again try to commit mass-murder against Jews.

    How do we prevent this?

    Zionists like to say the solution is for all Jews to live in Israel. Well, I think that's running away. And the Jews need to stop running and start standing their ground, everywhere.

    I support common sense gun control, but I also do think that every Jew should own a firearm.

    It would be very, very difficult to commit another Holocaust or even smaller scale act of mass-murder if we were an armed people.

    Sure, many countries have strong gun laws. But many countries in Europe and North America do allow folks to pretty easily own a rifle.

    Hell, I live in the gun-law capital of the USA and I own a firearm and could go buy another rifle or shotgun right now if I wanted.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    unfortunately many Jews don't like firearms and believe it or not, want to simply rely on the authorities to protect us.

    it didn't work in Crown Heights, what will we do when its Crown Heights except 1,000 times worse with the help of the police?
     
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    Spielberg's Schindler's List is filled with lies just like the official Holocaust story.

    Here, if anyone has a couple of hours free, I recommend everyone to watch this:

    [video=youtube;80GgRWuXcO8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8[/video]

    It refutes Spielberg's "The Last Days" movie filled with lies and debunks a lot of the general Holocaust story too. It mentions Schindler's List at one point if I remember correctly.

    HAHAHAHA, I love how it never occurs to zionist jews that there are legitimate reasons they've been universally hated. In fact, the whole "every country hate us because they all love to scapegoat us" is in of itself a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
     
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    wow, nobody wants to talk about the OP.
     
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    How is posting pictures of atheist Jewish Bolsheviks who were responsible for a horrifying mass murder "religious slurs?"
    They were photographs.

    How are photographs a "religious slur." If that's a religious slur I have to assume posting a picture of Himmler would be racial slur against Germans?
    Unbelievable.
     
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    OK fine.

    I wouldn't trust that movie. Spielberg has definitely inserted lies and deception within his movies in order to garner sympathy for the Jews, as proven by the "The Last Days of the Big Lie" which I posted above.

    Very unlikely. Jewish sympathy has been hardwired into everyone's brain too much, thanks to the Jewish owned media and academia. Besides, the Jews are in too much control of the US government for such a thing to ever occur.

    If you want to stop anti-Jew sentiment, you can fight and speak up against world Zionism and jewry like Brother Nathanael.

    Forces of evil? You seem to have a very child-like understanding of Hitler's motivations during WW2.

    Oh, boy. :wink:
     
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    There is something very simple, noble, pragmatic and inexpensive that we could and should be doing, to prevent another Holocaust type of event in America.

    This Thing, we should be doing anyway, for a host of other very important justice and cost saving reasons.

    It would be very effective at completely blocking the build up which led to the German NAZI persecution of the Jews.

    By our Constitution, with an Amendment specifically for this issue, we are legally bound to be doing this thing anyway....but we are NOT!

    It would benefit all people of all heritages, ethnicities, races, genders and sexual orientations.

    Can you guess what it is?

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    lol This line was just too good.
     
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    :roflol:

    Only stupid holocaust deniers/revisionists would object to the fact that a hollywood movie was not altogether historical. I guess they never heard of a little thing called "artistic licence" or how or why it is employed in creating "historical entertainment"

    OTOH, the main plot and the historical depiction of conditions is pretty damn accurate.


    you sure are right on top of things.
     
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    We need to make every effort to prevent the emergence of totalitarian states similar to Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union and there is little difference between National Socialism and Communism when it comes to how to silence the opposition. Stalin originally invented the concentration camp system and the Nazi leadership borrowed the Gulag system to maintain one-party control in Germany despite its stated opposition to Communist ideas. Pol Pot managed to decimate 25% of Cambodia's population when he experimented with an agrarian utopia inspired by Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution and any country under Communism or National Socialism could slip into genocidal situations.
     
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    That weak excuse may fly for Schindler's List but "The Last Days" is a documentary that claims to be 100% real. Can you explain why Spielberg lied in it?
     
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    wat? Then perhaps you can enlighten me? Why did Spielberg lie?

    Which is easier to believe? A conspiracy within a group of people? Or a conspiracy among several groups of people all to persecute a single group? You seem like the conspiracy nut here, buddy.

    I guess that is why nearly everything he says is spot on? But you can just side step and attack the messenger instead of the message, fine.

    Good goyim. Just like Professor Steinberg taught you.:clapping:
     
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    BOX OFFICE.

    I have no doubt that "the last days" denier/revisionist liar claims it is a documentary and 100% "real". But that is a far cry from "truthful" or accurate..

    I can point to dozens of real documentaries produced by holocaust deniers/revisionists that unfortunately are 100% real. they are all full of pig excrement, but nonetheless they are out there.
     
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    Im not sure why the OP's focus is on Jews when they themselves have more than enough blood on their hands with the Marxist est killing 60m people.

    But you're exactly right, the focus should be to stop totalitarian states - my suggestion would be read 'The Road to Serfdom' or look up the youtubes on it and or Friedrich Von Hayek. Then always go with freedom over freestuff the collectivist will offer.

    Milton Friedman on Hayek's "Road to Serfdom" 1/2
    [video=youtube;15idnfuyqXs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15idnfuyqXs[/video]
     
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    he didn't lie. he used artistic license in telling a story about the holocaust that was based on a true story.


    :roflol:

    well, there are at least two organizations that consider al nakba a stain on arab and muslim honour, and who are virulently anti-zionist and in large part jew hating. But its only 45 nations or so with about 1.2 billion people, but of course they wouldn't dream of conspiring against Israel.

    there is the Arab Leagues 22 member states.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

    and then there is the larger OIC with 45 member states.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation

    and what do you have that is easier to believe? The fake Protocol's, AIPAC with the accompanying myriad of lies and distortions about its effectiveness, and a whole bunch of really successful jews in finance, government, media, science, technology, etc.

    Hmmmmmm. wonder what is truly easier to believe............ 1.2 billion people and 45 states or 1 state, 11 million people, and a handful of staunch allies.

    Well, since you are a revisionist, he is preaching to the choir isn't he, so you eat up the bullcrap he is slinging.
    There is no doubt that a very few of the survivor testimonies were either lies, exaggerations or false memories.
    No doubt some are motivated by deliberate fraud, others are simply attempting to recall traumatic experience of decades ago which understandably might suffer from gaps and misrememberances, still others had thru hundreds of repetitions elaborated on their own story like broken telephone.

    Seems Mr. Hunt is providing other revisionists with fodder for step 11 of how to be a revisionist, and naturally revisionists buy into it, just like you.

    11. The Great Leap -- This tactic goes like this: If one piece of testimony about the Holocaust seems unreliable, then ALL testimony about the Holocaust is unreliable. If one Holocaust witness may have recanted something on the stand, then all other Holocaust witnesses are liars. If some camp prisoners did not starve to death, then NONE of them starved to death. etc. But be careful. This is a double-edged sword -- someone may use the well-documented lies of other revisionists to conclude that YOU are a liar as well.


    what a churlish, clownish retort. Right out of the playbook

    1. Creamed Mush with Fog Sauce -- Never provide evidence for your assertions. In fact, respond to demands for evidence the way Dracula responds to crucifixes. Do anything you can to avoid it. Throw insults. Change the subject. Obfuscate. Laugh derisively. Claim you already gave the evidence or that someone else did. But never provide any evidence yourself (unless you provide an incomplete or incomprehensible citation along with it).
     
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    As I said on a post on the first page of this Thread, there is a simple, pragmatic, legally required step which could, and should be taking, which would likely stop any chance of another Holocaust type event, and it would protect Jews and everybody else as well...

    Can you guess what it is?

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    Not sure, ill take a few stabs at it, but if Hayek's advice it would be most improbable

    Promote real free markets (with regulation)
    Restricting how long people can be in politics
    Restrict govt size/ reach
    Ban any form of collectivism
     
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    I think all of those things are good Ideas, and I've long been a fan of both Heyek and Friedman... But No, that is not where I was going. Though those things would help.

    Go read the history of the Third Reich, NAZI Party, and the years between WWI and WWII in Germany.

    The end result of the Holocaust, or the attempt at Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide, was the simply the ultimate expression of things that had been happening, and growing in perverse violence for years before the outbreak of WWII and the "Final Solution".

    Namely, the Ethnic Cleansing is just the Ultimate expression of Government Institutionalized Race Based Categorization and Differential Treatment.

    The Holocaust was Affirmative Action, taken to its Natural Extremity!

    There is an old adage in Law Enforcement:
    In other words, if you instill a respect for Traffic Laws, you have fewer Bank Robberies.

    Well, it doesn't seem small, when you're the guy just Denied a collage scholarship, job, or promotion, but to be honest, compared to Genocide, it is a little thing.

    The point is, if the German Legal system had not allowed the beginnings of the Ethnic Differential Treatment, the Registration of Jews, the Arm Bands, the Special Taxes, the seizure of Businesses and Factories, the restrictions on movement, the Concentration Camps....

    You can clearly see how the Ethnic Based Differential Treatment Grows and Grows, until we reach the Logical Conclusion; Genocide.

    Well, America HAS a Constitution with a 14th Amendment!

    Yet we do not Honor, Respect, Understand and ENFORCE it!

    The primary way in which we ignore the 14th Amendment, is the Government Institutionalized Racial Categorization and Differential Treatment of Affirmative Action!

    Once Again, AA is at the Heart of what is Wrong with America!

    It is well past time for Affirmative Action to be GONE!

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    Thing is you need to look at why they did those things.

    For mine you need to look back at the events of WW1 and the Bolshevik revolution. WW1 was a stalemate until the US joined in, only months after they joined in England gave a nice little gift called the Balfour Declaration. Then the Bolshevik revolution which saw 10s of millions slaughtered, that had deep Jewish roots and financing spread to Germany in their revolution - You can see why they might be protective of their people considering the massacres inflicted on the Russians. Germans felt betrayed and the Nazi party a reaction to communism. Even then they gave Jews free passage out of the country, the mass killings didnt happen until well into the war, pretty much when they knew they'd lose.

    Dont allow any Marxist based ideologies to take hold and its likely none of it happens, shame we're not doing that however. AA is part of that divide and conquer strategy, so yes it needs to go.

    An interesting video about Fascism being a reaction to Communism.
    [video=youtube;zwZHvwCBAns]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwZHvwCBAns&list=PLYcuLAArq58TkE-Lo-KVkHbrPN0xzHgyV&index=50[/video]
     
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    It does not matter why they did them.

    The Statue which Represents Justice, wears a Blindfold for a Reason!

    If the checks and balances and laws of a country firmly prevent any Government Agency from EVER categorizing people by Race, and then treating them differently based on that Categorization, then a Genocide Cannot Happen!

    That's WHY America has a 14th Amendment!

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    My advice? Convince Israel to give up the West Bank, and honor the decisions of the United Nations. The actions of the Israeli military do a great deal to harm their reputation internationally, and particularly in the Middle East, where their neighbors have much higher birth rates than they do. It really isn't fair that the reputation of Jews around the world suffers for the actions of one country, but it is a fact that people judge Jews by the actions of Israel.
     
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    And here again you are looking at trying Appeasement Concessions...

    It never works, it just generates more violence.

    Especially with the Palestinians.

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    It might work with me. I don't like America much, and I try not to let emotions dominate my thinking, but I want to be genuine in telling you that if there is any country in the world that I despise, it is Israel. Come to think of it, if there is any war you could ever convince me to fight, ever, in the entire history of warfare, it would be on the side of the Palestinians and against Israel. So I'm sorry, but you really don't understand where my post is coming from.
     
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    We already do have a holocaust. It's called abortion.

    We simply live in a society where life is not valued. It won't be too long before it happens again, I mean with born people.
     

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