Pro-"choice" arguments

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    They do...and abortion is one of them.

    Why do you want to restrict WOMEN'S choices ??
     
  2. FoxHastings

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    No, DUH, the clinic does NOT offer ONE choice...it has many services including prenatal care …..why are you talking about something you don't know about??
     
  3. Polydectes

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    Do you support the others?
    I don't.
     
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    How many adoptions has planned Parenthood been responsible for? How many births?
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    I support women having the same rights as everyone else.


    Then you aren't against abortion?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, DUH, the clinic does NOT offer ONE choice...it has many services including prenatal care …..why are you talking about something you don't know about??


    PP is not responsible for adoptions nor do they provide delivery services.

    As I asked :.why are you talking about something you don't know about??
     
  7. Polydectes

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    The only other people are men. They don't have the right to have abortions.

    Do you think before you type?



    I think it's wrong.
     
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    So it provides for one option.
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    Men, if pregnant, have a right to get an abortion.

    The right I am talking about is that of bodily autonomy. The right to one's own body which men have . But some want that right taken away from women by forcing them to gestate


    I asked you : "Why do you want to restrict WOMEN'S choices ??"

    And you answered : " I don't".

    Fine, then don't try to take away their choice to have an abortion because you think it's wrong.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    PP is not responsible for adoptions nor do they provide delivery services.




    SHOW exactly where I said that in the post of mine you quoted.

    I didn't...they provide other services like prenatal care...do you know what prenatal care is?

    As I asked :.why are you talking about something you don't know about??
     
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    I don't.
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    :) When the insults start I know I've won :) Thank you...
     
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    I said it, you tried to argue but failed.
     
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    Good, so you won't be responding to me any more on the subject, to do so wouldn't serve any argumentative value since you've won.
     
  15. Maquiscat

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    Strawman. Not what I said or asked for. You made the claim that pro choice advocates are actually only pushing for abortion and no other choices. Prove it.
     
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    Again strawman. The issue of where an action takes place holds no bearing on the action itself.

    Once more, strawman. The offering of choices is not related to the location of those choices. I have choices of several different fast food establishments, but each one is not camping out in the parking lot of their competitor to show those choices exist. But should any given business allow a competitor to set up such a thing in their parking lot, then power to them.

    Obviously you are highly misinformed. Planned Parenthood clinics offers up a multitude of services, allowing a woman to make a choice, be it adoption, abortion, or keeping the offspring. They offer services for prior to pregnancy, prenatal care, adoption assistance and much more. In fact there are PP clinic that do NOT have any abortion services whatsoever, although they do have information and counseling should the woman want them.

    Granted. But that is pro life's only goal. Whether adoption or keeping, pro life advocates only promote the completion of the pregnancy. PP has services for those as well as abortion. PP has all the choices, pro life groups only have some.

    I've got no issues with their attempting to further their cause. I do have issue if they attempt to withdraw the abortion option by making it illegal, or if they present falsehoods, or try to portray subjective views as objective.
     
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    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/considering-adoption

    While PP does not engage in adoption in and of itself, it provides aid to the woman in locating services if the woman chooses that route. They also provide the following services and/or information.

    • COVID-19 / New Coronavirus
    • Abortion
    • Birth Control
    • Cancer
    • Emergency Contraception
    • Health and Wellness
    • Pregnancy
    • Sex, Pleasure, and Sexual Dysfunction
    • Sexual Orientation
    • Gender Identity
    • Relationships
    • Consent and Sexual Assault
    • Sexually Transmitted Infections (STDs)
    • General Health Care
      Seeing a nurse or doctor regularly can prevent illness, find problems that may need treatment, and help you stay healthy.

      HIV Services
      HIV tests are quick and painless. And there are medications that can prevent HIV, and help people living with HIV live longer, healthier lives.

      LGBT Services
      Planned Parenthood provides appropriate, high-quality health care for LGBT patients, which may include hormone therapy for transgender patients.

      Men's Health Services
      Men can come to Planned Parenthood for health services addressing cancer, STDs, fertility, sexual dysfunction, birth control, and routine checkups.

      Patient Education
      Planned Parenthood provides clear, accurate, up-to-date information to help you understand and care for your sexual and reproductive health.

      Pregnancy Testing & Services
      Pregnancy is a big life event. We can help answer your questions, provide support, and make sure you get the care you need to stay healthy.

      Women's Services
      Women can count on Planned Parenthood for essential health care like birth control, STD tests, pelvic exams, cancer screenings, and pregnancy-related services.

     
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    False. I made the claim that some are.
     
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    None of this is relevant. They only offer one choice for mother's to be. My point stands.
     
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    Pp doesn't offer any other choice for mother's to be.

    You can rant all day about these other services that don't matter.
     
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    Either you didn't bother to read, or you are blatantly lying. There are options for keeping the baby and care during that, referrals to adoption agencies, and the care and screening prior to even getting pregnant, and prevention thereof. The offer multiple choices to the mother. As noted, some of the individual clinics don't even have abortion services. So they would have to be referred to another clinic, but the option is still there.
     
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    I have already proven that they do. Women who go to PP have the options to keep, adopt out, abort, or, if caught soon enough, prevent implantation, which is different from abortions. What evidence do you present to the contrary?
     
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    You claimed most.

    And I asked you to support the claim. I did not claim that there should not be choices. So are you going to support the claim, or will you dodge again?
     
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    Sure.
    So?
     
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    Accurately.


    If you doubt my claim then dismiss it. I don't care.
     

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