Problems with the Bible

FAIL on your part. Using the link provided that points directly to government records/findings and then using the first of that government search, the word Afghanistan is not even mentioned in the report.

 

You underestimate the AWOL problem, and suicides outnumber troops kia.
No one is saying that church attendance doesn't spike once in country. That has been categorically conceded long ago. Why do you keep saying that? It makes you look desperate to find an argument that makes sense. Of course it does. The reality and the fear start to set in, and the men seek refuge.
Interesting that your training suggest that you find faith, "ANY FAITH", as psychological armament. It sounds like your training concedes that the truth or falsity of that faith isn't the point, it's the belief in something that can help you make sense of the carnage you will be subject to. It is faith, and not the object of that faith, that they believe has the calming effect. That is VERY interesting.

 

Of course atheism doesn't provide comfort. Religions are often specifically designed to provide comfort by suggesting some sort of life beyond this life and by providing a supreme judicial authority. However, simply because people are comforted by an idea says nothing about the truth of that idea.

 

I can post dozens of links. That's the raw data to support the other links.
You're a child, Inc.

 

Agh, so that is what Jesus and his cabel were doing ... they sat around thinking up ways to provide comfort ... of course, of course .... And teh fact that atheists need that comfort and deny it? You think atheists don;t struggle with killing? And why ar ethey less able to cope with it statistically?

Well, mught as well take a guess, any speculation you have is just that ... but the speculation is more for you is it not?

 

There is exactly one Soldier who is believed to have gone AWOL WHILE he was here. He was captured by the Taliban, the Haqqani Network to be exact, and remains in captivity.

You see, when you dress differently than everyone, don;t speak the languages, and have no idea where you are going and the further away you get from the Americans .... the more likely you are to die from either the Taliban, or just someone who doesn't want either the Taliban or the Americans to come through ripping the place apart looking for you. Travelling alons in thpart of the world, regardless of your Nationalisty is dangerous.

 

Can I ask for which study you are referring to? It would help greatly in answering your questions.

 

From what I know about Jesus, he was a Jew that was looking to fundamentally change the face of Judaism and was especially critical of the Jewish priests, which is why he was killed. However, Jesus didn't write anything in the Bible, so I have no idea what the goals of the people who DID write it were. And I think you missed the entire point of my post. Just because an idea provides a coping mechanism doesn't mean that idea is correct. Do you agree with that statement?

 

He must agree with that statement, as his training, in his words, is to have faith in SOMETHING, so some of what these believers place their faith in must be wrong, by definition, as the beliefs would lack fundamental agreement. He doesn't understand that his post was successful in doing the heavy lifting of our argument. Combat doesn't move one toward truth, but rather toward a satisfying of a need, encouraged by the brass.

 

Military Resilancy Training.

 

All of this entirely misses the point. Which is purpose as revealed in the Bible. And no, its not feel good all the time. For example, when you take a man's life, there is no good feeling that comes from that. None. Yet among the twisted shards of teh battlefield can be purpose .... and at certain point people hope that this purpose is worth it. Because ultimately victory does not mean we kill more of you than you do of us, but that the purpose is achieved.

It does tend to make people think about whay their life, among so many other lives mean. And the answer is not just ... comfort.

 

Do they teach spelling?

 

No, you just twist whatever is written. The Army cannot recommend a specific faith. We are constitutionally forbidden from doing so. But we can advocate science, and I am sure that science can easily reveal which ones produce the best benefots in these situations, but the simple truth is that all legimate faiths are better than none at all.

And your heavy lifting is always that our faith is worthless, delusional. And yet, all of them provide tangible benefits in trying conditions ... except yours.

That the heavu lifting you look for? That what makes atheism so much better?

 

Just manners and the ability to make a point. Service - carrying about others ... you know not attempting to be the forum secretary? An annoying internet step mom?

 

Where does he say anything about feeling good all the time? If you have a good argument, you don't need to attribute poor ones to your adversary for you to denegrate. Stay honest. It gives your posts credibility.
I thought your buddies were all excited that you were back because you were such an "unbeliever killer", but your arguments are so weak, and you get so angry and frustrated, that you actually make our arguments for us.
Just watched two hours of a documentary on snipers, and those guys took a very distinct pleasure in their craft. Not a scintilla of remorse.
As for the answer the men find to the great questions about their lives, ultimately it IS comfort, as they don't come to the same conclusions.

 

You don't ask questions; you troll.

 

Alright, I'll ignore these misspellings, too.
Now, demonstrate the ability to make a point, other than mine.

 

To the chagrin of science??

Science is observational and impartial, my poor deluded friend. Science would simply study the phenomenon you're talking about, not become a cheerleader for or against Christianity.

I personally find the cases you mention, assuming they are true, to be indicative of how the human mind works. People often need religion to deal with difficulties in life. That doesn't make a given religion true, however. It only shows that humans are, well, human. We have our limitations, our foibles, our weaknesses, our qualities as highly intelligent mammals, etc. Reason and logic aren't always sufficient for a person to cope with circumstances, and this varies according to both the person and circumstances in question.

 

That is why religion has been useful to governments for ages. It doesn't matter whether it's 'true,' but rather how effective it is at controlling people.

 

Are you suggesting that a series of words forming a point of inquiry and ending with a question mark is not a question? Wow! What school did you go to?

 

It was enormously useful in the runup to Iraq.

 

Look, you just did it again.

Anyway, what was your question?

 

The original questions were asked here:
http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/253784-problems-bible-58.html#post1061420097

Subsequently other questions also remain unanswered such as those found here:
"Are you suggesting that a series of words forming a point of inquiry and ending with a question mark is not a question? Wow! What school did you go to?"

 

Several points have been made, please feel free to pick one and tell what you think.

How about, the problem is not the Bible. Those who wish to understand will invest the time and brain power to understand it and derive valuable lessons, those who do not, will invest a good search of atheist internet web sites to peruse 'issues' with the Bible and make not attempt to do anything more than scoff with the illusion that they understand and are 'experts'.

The problem isn't the Bible, its the interpreter. Those seeking to deliberately misinterpret? Not the Bible's fault.

 

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