"Progressive"...towards what?

Healthcare as a human right possibly....

Since when is bowing to big time capitalists at insurance companies necessary to get good healthcare?

 

That's what I said.

No connection. No cause/effect relationship between "socialization" and economic strength. If you remember, the "socialization" started with FDR in 1945 and the economy was the best ever between 1945 and 1980s when Reagan started "desocializing" the economy. So are you sure you want to pursue this line of thinking?

Never mind. That was the main part of my posting yet you ask about it now. Never mind. This is pointless. A person has to read, comprehend, and think to discuss intelligently.

 

I do see them rushing for two things- the outhouse to get another load of manure to spread, and the free lunch table (or anything that someone else will have to pay for). That's the progressive plan- pay all your bills with OPM, then you don't have to work... that's Other Peoples Money.

 

ONE factoid??? LOL!!!!!

Research it. My bachelors cost me about $450/semester. And everyone but you knows this and that the costs have multiplied. And it's another factoid.

If you aren't willing to check your "facts" before posting them, don't bother posting them.

 

Agreed. It's deeply primitive of America not to have this already. All civilised nations (should) have universal high quality public healthcare. It's like food and clean drinking water. Basic survival stuff.

 

Now THAT is nonsensical!! Either you don't know what "capitalism" is, or you're trying to say that a worker owns the factory, in which case you're really lost.

So not only do you not know what capitalism is, you don't know what socialism is either. Research it and get back to me.

 

His/her point was that if you spend the huge sums involved today, and come out with a degree in 17thC French Poetry, or worse, Social Studies, you have no one to blame but yourself (and possibly your parents, for agreeing to such an outrageously wasteful expenditure of 3 or 4 years) when you can't pay it back. STEM grads earn big bucks right out of the gate, so no dramas at all paying off loans.

 

That has no bearing on the fact that the cost of education has multiplied. The thinking of the right proves to be highly suspect. duh

 

I did offer facts you merely ignore them because they do not support your faith based beliefs

 

The only way these can be "rights" is if the government doesn't deny you from having them. You cant how ever force someone else to provide or pay for the service or do the service for free or reduced cost of what the service provider would normally agree too voluntarily. That infringes on other people's rights. An individual has the right to treat themselves and their family as they see fit and can afford. Same with food and water. Progs have made laws against these things, ie illegal to hunt without several licenses or illegal to collect rain water. It is even illegal to put up a wind turbine some places for personal use. If there is one person negatively effected by a law, the law isn't effective and must be abolished.

 

So then America is a pure democracy and just the only true citizens are members of Congress.

Contemporary Roman accounts confirm their society was incredibly prudish when it came to sex. The diatribes bun christians centuries later about orgies were fabrications.

 

Now you are distorting words. One, America is a constitutional republic for the country. Some times direct democracy for policies, especially for local votes. Two, those who are citizens in ancient Greece were spelled out, just like who is a citizen in the US.

So the roman artist were lying?

 

1. Only a tiny minority of Athens had any voting rights. That is not direct democracy. It is an oligarchy. Period.

2. By all means, show some ROMAN artists that depicted orgies as any kind of common occurance.