Prominent Feminists Tacitly Condone Female Genital Mutilation

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  1. Sharpie

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    Oh no, how do Progs sort this one out???
    On the one hand, we want our little boys to have sex change operations and on the other hand, we have a rising practice of sewing up little girls against their will.
     
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    Because the tape and post do not tell the entire truth:
    1. The "doctor" who did this to two girls committed a crime and is being prosecuted for said crime.

    2. Because the source said this has not been reported by the main stream media, but I found reports on this on both Detroit Newspapers, Time Magazine, Reuters, Fox, CNN and ABC

    3. Because the source Pamela Geller's American Freedom Defense League is strongly biased and considered a "hate group":
    "Pamela Geller, whose American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group, declared on Sunday that "the war is here"…The organization's aggressively anti-Islam website promises to "act against the treason being committed by national, state, and local government officials, the mainstream media, and others in their capitulation to the global jihad and Islamic supremacism."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11581156/Garland-shooting-Who-is-Pamela-Geller-and-the-American-Freedom-Defence-Initiative.html

    4. Because the report is untruthful as a major feminist spokesperson in Michigan spoke out strongly about this:
    "Shelby Quast, director of women's and girl's activist group Equality Now's Americas Office, told ABC News that while she is "encouraged" that Nagarwala was arrested, "prosecution is just a piece of the package."
    Quast stressed the importance of prevention and ensuring that law enforcement, lawmakers, the health care community, education community, religious leaders, survivors, and activists work together to protect women in U.S. from the "harmful practice."
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/detroit-doctor-charged-1st-statute-criminalizing-female-genital/story?id=46777751
     
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    A girl who only has her clitoris amputated and her vagina stitched tight has been one of the luckier ones.

    “Walker's interview with Dr. Henriette Kouyate discusses the health risks. Unlike the cutting of skin in male circumcision, the clitoris connects with the dorsal artery causing hemorrhagging and death. In infibulation, the outer lips (both labia) are sewn together with straw, thread or even thorns. A small opening only allows little blood to flow out during menstruation causing sterility and infection. Clitorodectomy and infibulation result in tetanus, painful intercourse, complicated pregnancies and HIV (unsterile blades).” from Alice Walker’s Warrior Marks, Alison Sims - Staff Writer The VERMILION, 1995.
     
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    Spare us any defense of the leftist mainstream media, ok? And the feminist movements in this nation as well.
    Because they are total phony hypocrites who really do not care about any women when it interferes with their agendas.
    And this lament of ours is not about the latest case or doctor. It is about the evils of Islam allowed in modern day civilized nations like the USA. I will quote Wikipedia on the subject -- and it is pretty well known wikipedia is no advocate for conservative or Christian causes if they can get away with not having to reveal certain truths. So this latest episode is not some rare occurrence... they are just well hidden by the media and by our legislators and other so-called caring groups.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation_in_the_United_States

    The current prevalence of FGM in the US is uncertain. In early 2014, Equality Now campaigned with survivor activist Jaha Dukureh – who started a change.org petition that received more than 220,000 signatures, – Representatives Joseph Crowley (D-NY) and Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), and The Guardian to get the Obama Administration to conduct a new prevalence study into the current scope of FGM in the U.S. as the first step towards its elimination.[5] Released in early 2016, the report showed that 513,000 girls and women were either affected - or at risk of undergoing FGM in the U.S.

    According to 1997 estimates by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, at that time, over 168,000 girls and women in the U.S. had either been, or were at risk of being, subjected to FGM. In 2000, the African Women’s Health Center at Brigham and Women’s Hospital put the number at 227,887.[5] The Population Reference Bureau estimated that in 2011 there were up to 507,000 females who had undergone FGM or were at risk of it.[6]

    Of these women and girls, 55% were of Egyptian, Ethiopian, or Somalian origin. The practice is concentrated in eight states: California, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Texas, Virginia, and Washington.[7]
     
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    Because of all the women's marches - zero have addressed this problem. None have mutilated their pink caps. None have addressed women being stoned, burned alive, or the victims of honor killings. Because to do so would go crossways to their cultural sensitivity, and their inexplicable push to import this thinking into our society.
     
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    I saw that the source was right wing bull-**** and spreading nonsense propaganda. You ignore that fact.
     
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    The fact is: Progressives cannot openly take a stand against female genital mutilation or treatment of females living under Sharia law because they have to face their own propaganda in support of cultural diversity.
     
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    There are only a few issues they won't bend on for the sake of political expediency, and women's rights isn't one of them. They care about winning elections, redistribution of wealth, and sexual license. Aside from that, any issue can be put on the backburner if necessary.
     
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    That's nonsense. You can't enforce US law in Senegal or Sudan, but you sure as hell can enforce it in Georgia and Alabama or Illinois.
     
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    All the right wing knows how to do is obstruct, climb into the wombs of others and resort to gory sensationalism and fear tactics.
    This thread is just further proof of the incredible need right wingers have to place blame by fear tactics and propaganda. No right winger really gives a flying **** about the suffering or plight of anyone else anyway so stop the phony concern over the health and welfare of the genitals of others.

    EBOLA! BENGHAZI! EMAILS! LOCK HER UP! FETUS SELLING!
    BUILD THE WALL ! LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICTAE! HEALTHY SCHOOL LUNCHES KILL! GENITAL MUTILATION!
     
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    Ah ...This is that Pam Geller bunch of sh*tstirrers.
     
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    I don't know but it sounds juicy scary to the right wing chicken littles.
     
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    And it has been shown that the article is not accurate which you wish to ignore.
    There is widespread contempt for such practices by men and women all across this country. There are organizations led by liberal women who are fighting to end this practice in both the US and around the world. Can you show me one instance where the "prominent feminists" speak in favor of this practice? Your argument, that feminists condone genital mutilation is illogical and shows contempt for the intelligence of the people who read it.
    Question based on your form of argument: Does the fact that the Tea Party Patriots have not openly protested the acts of Dylan Roof or that the Liberty Caucus has not spoken out against his murders mean that they tacitly support what he did? Of course not.
     
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    The only thing that march was about was on-demand abortion.

    They fluffed it around the edges, but that's all it was.
     
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    So they are just a bunch of damned liars.
     
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    I think its fine for consenting adults to mutilate their own bodies for any reason they choose. My hope is that these people will see reason and stop doing so. Anyone who mutilates a child, or a non-consenting adult is a real piece of poo, in my opinion.

    On a child (consenting or no)
    A wretched practice, that goes for circumcision too. Not old enough to consent, and mutilating those that don't is even worse. I don't really care what your religious/ cultural reasoning are, its not your body and its not your decision. Unless there is a problem- leave it be!

    Child (transgender)
    Assuming its the child's idea- No way in hell I'd let my child risk going under the knife- I have no problem with them dressing drag, but surgery is inherently risky and to be avoided. Further- kids are stupid and fickle 'nuff said. Mine can wait until they're 18 years old, and I'd love them and accept them just the same if they "make the switch".
    For other parents - I'm not going try to enact laws to tell people how to raise their kid, but I seriously hope they'd reconsider.

    On an adult
    As long as they are making an informed conceptual decision, I have no figs to give. If they do so due to societal pressure/ laws or threats that's wicked bad news. If they are uninformed, I hope they get informed before going under the knife.

    I am a progressive.
     
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    So you don't really care about the women this is done to, you just want to rant about Muslims....

    ...and your C&P just showed the numbers, not who's fighting against it except for here: """"Equality Now campaigned with survivor activist Jaha Dukureh – who started a change.org petition that received more than 220,000 signatures, – Representatives Joseph Crowley (D-NY) and Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), and The Guardian to get the Obama Administration to conduct a new prevalence study into the current scope of FGM in the U.S. as the first step towards its elimination.[5] Released in early 2016, the report showed that 513,000 girls and women were either affected - or at risk of undergoing FGM in the U.S.
     
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    Source citation need for the above claim.
     
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    Source citation needed for stated fact.
     
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    Oh, if you think I was giving republican senators or reps. a free pass on this, then it is my fault for not having made that clear. They are equally to blame. I have read more articles through Christian publications and some efforts to combat it than any political or government endeavor. As far as the media is concerned, I do it recall being addressed by right wing Fox News more than a few times. I do not recall any of the other TV news outlets (including PBS?) bringing this up as a real concern.

    So I concede your point. And that point is >>> Everyone in the govt and in the media are scared to death of Islam if they criticize it too directly.
     
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    Honor killings, stonings and burning people alive are called murder and will get you the death penalty in most of the Muslim world.
     
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