http://dlmreport.com/component/cont...re-denied-gun-permits-only-44-were-prosecuted That's right, out of 15K + who tried to purchase guns and failed the background check, only 44 were prosecuted by Obama's Justice Department. But his goal is to keep us safer right? How does ignoring these felons trying to purchase guns and getting away with it do that? What is his TRUE agenda?
What is there to explain? There is no hidden agenda. Failing a background check does not equate automatically into a criminal indictment. You need to provide more info on the 44 cases that were prosecuted and why the others were not besides the numbers you are using.
The below link provides more info http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/feb/03/mayors-against-illegal-guns/us-files-criminal-charges-fraction-gun-denial-case/
I wonder if the next time you get caught speeding, the officer will not give you a speeding ticket, but simply impound your car and haul your ass to jail. - - - Updated - - - I wonder if the next time you get caught speeding, the officer will not give you a speeding ticket, but simply impound your car and haul your ass to jail.
Speeding is not an arrestable offense. Attempting to acquire a firearm while not being allowed to (felons) is an arrestable offense. In fact, trying to acquire a firearm while being a felon is a felony.
libs love the laws that puts their opponents in a noose. Most of these cowardly libs actually own guns, ya know. They just want to see the rest of us disarmed so they can rule over us. IMO, 99% if them have never read the Constitution or the Magna Carta.
Chuck Schumer has a concealed carry permit Gabby Giffords owns a gun with a high capacity magazine etc......
Both are arrestable offenses and it depends on those facts and circumstances if one is arrested. In Texas, if you speed and are 25 mph above the speed limit, an arrest is most likely. The same with failing a background check on purchasing a firearm. If you fail the background check, it is sent to the ATF. Of the 15k cases sent to the ATF only 4700 were referred to the DOJ. More than half never met the ATF criteria for further investigation. Th remaining were sent to ATF field offices for further investigation. The analogy I was comparing was directed at Whater's argument that all the cases, or most of the cases, or even half of the cases should have been sent to the DOJ. This is a ludicrous, red herring argument because you nor Whaler understand anything about our justice system, It is the details that make or break any case and it is those details that you ignore on your posts. - - - Updated - - - Both are arrestable offenses and it depends on those facts and circumstances if one is arrested. In Texas, if you speed and are 25 mph above the speed limit, an arrest is most likely. The same with failing a background check on purchasing a firearm. If you fail the background check, it is sent to the ATF. Of the 15k cases sent to the ATF only 4700 were referred to the DOJ. More than half never met the ATF criteria for further investigation. Th remaining were sent to ATF field offices for further investigation. The analogy I was comparing was directed at Whater's argument that all the cases, or most of the cases, or even half of the cases should have been sent to the DOJ. This is a ludicrous, red herring argument because you nor Whaler understand anything about our justice system, It is the details that make or break any case and it is those details that you ignore on your posts. - - - Updated - - - Both are arrestable offenses and it depends on those facts and circumstances if one is arrested. In Texas, if you speed and are 25 mph above the speed limit, an arrest is most likely. The same with failing a background check on purchasing a firearm. If you fail the background check, it is sent to the ATF. Of the 15k cases sent to the ATF only 4700 were referred to the DOJ. More than half never met the ATF criteria for further investigation. Th remaining were sent to ATF field offices for further investigation. The analogy I was comparing was directed at Whater's argument that all the cases, or most of the cases, or even half of the cases should have been sent to the DOJ. This is a ludicrous, red herring argument because you nor Whaler understand anything about our justice system, It is the details that make or break any case and it is those details that you ignore on your posts.
My my, the ignorance abounds, clue: States do the background checks and it is they that descide whether a person commited a crime, not the President of The United States of America.
Not always, and did you know that many felons do get their right to own guns back, the courts allow it all the time. Can someone that attempts to buy a gun illegally get arrested but it is rare, as the numbers suggest, has nothing to do with the POTUS. I find this outrage interesting since it is righties, like the OP, that are against gun control in any way and yet they whine when someone is not prosecuted for trying to do so when it was illegal for them to try, FAUX OUTRAGE at its finest.
Are you a traffic cop? Speeding is not a misdemeanor or felony unless it is breaking some other law. There is no crime being committed. Reckless driving is an arrestable offense which is different than speeding because it is a misdemeanor. Most times, the arresting officer arrests the person on the side of the road and then releases them and gives them a court date. Failing a background check can be for many different reasons, including being mistaken for someone else on the form. John Smith, a common name, might be confused with someone else in the area named John Smith if they didn't put their SS# on the 4473 even though they are not a felon or other phrobited person. Failing a background check is NOT a crime. Failing a background check while being a felon for reasons of being a felon, is a felony. The cases sent to the DOJ are on a case by case basis. The scenario I pointed out above, John Smith, would get reviewed and then cast out as soon as it was determined that John Smith is not a felon. No need to send it to the DOJ. Even if it is sent to the DOJ, the District Attorney would have to decide to prosecute which costs times, money, and public resources in the form of court/judge/attorney/jail time. I feel like it is you who are trying to grab at straws right now without realizing that failing a background check could be for multiple reasons, not just because they failed a background check and should be sent to the slammer.
And you would have us beleive that out of 15,000 failures, only 44 were felons trying to obtain guns illegally? That is how many OUT OF 15K that Obama's Justice Department pursued.
Do you listen to yourself when you talk? Or even know which side of the debate I am on? I say 44 out of 15,000 is a pitiful conviction rate and shows contempt by the current administration towards gun laws. Strengthening background checks is a feel good measure, nothing more. Check yourself before you start typing into a computer.
Try again, that is 15K "Felons" that were turned down. It is against the law to lie on the form and a felon would have to lie on the form to purchase a firearm. Each one of those could be prosecuted. The travesty here is that we already have gun laws that could be prosecuted but instead are ignored to help make the claim for more gun laws.
