Putin’s allies pump millions into GOP campaigns through proxies — thanks to Citizens United

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  1. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, since I was referring to Gorsuch. You are wrong. Sorry. I thought that would be obvious to pretty much everyone since the GOP used an underhanded trick to deny President Obama his Constitutional responsibility to seat a Supreme Court Justice. With luck, that decision will be rectified in the next 5-10 years.
     
  2. ThorInc

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    You are still hearing the Clinton dog whistles..........or blowing them somewhat impotently. The law is not on you side AGAIN. Don't support tRUmp/GOP/RUssian corruption if you are a real patriot.
     
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    Well, I mean... we all know that Trump is deranged. That's pretty obvious, but the Trump Cabal's super-cozy relationship with a hostile foreign power that is still waging multiple-leveled warfare on our election system probably has more to do with avarice, hubris, and a hunger for power.
     
  4. PrincipleInvestment

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    You are unable to support your claims ... You are the dog whistle that's clenched between the teeth of MSM pundits. Why would you author a thread on a topic that you cannot support with citations from credible sources? You're constantly forced to resort to inane rhetoric. Do you have evidence, like FEC docs, that even hint at impropriety? :deadhorse:
     
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    Maybe you'll post something that you didn't just make up!
     
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    It is a reflection of the degree to which the Republican Party has sold its soul.
     
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    I have never seen you post one word of support for either campaign finance reform or for lobbying restrictions.

    If you cared about either one, you would be posting about the evils of Citizen's United, and you would be noting the fact that the men behind the curtain (lobbyists) wrote the GOP tax bill.

    But, in fact, you're silent on both.
     
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    How exactly does that work? How is my freedom going to be undermined? I've got to admit that I feel more threatened by the SJW left than Russia when it comes to undermining my freedom.

    Who benefits from the US adopting a bellicose attitude toward Russia? You? Me?

    Or is it the Global Capitalists who wish to damage a rival?
     
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    Which has nothing to do with the OP. Besides, all of Soro's activities are in the open. The Open Society Institute publishes extensive reports on its activies, contributions, and programs.

    Try getting that from Trump or Koch!
     
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    Spoken like an FSB operative! I sometimes have to look up these right wing memes. Far right wingers have their own vocabulary of code words that are meaningless to anyone else.
     
  11. PrincipleInvestment

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    Why would I deviate from the threads theme? Phony through and through.
     
  12. TomFitz

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    There is no evidence the Hillary Clinton recieved any money from the Russians.

    On the other hand, they own Trump. His shaky real estate empire rests on Russian markers.
     
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    Sorry ... Since the very beging I've maintained that both Manafort, and Flynn likely violated FARA. I've offered that Manafort, Flynn, Kushner, and Podesta, confessed to FARA violations by amending, or belatedly filing disclosures. I've called FARA toothless ... it is.
     
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    So, can you tell me how Russia threatens my freedom?

    Can anybody?
     
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    OK, so you get credit on one tiny part of lobbying regulation. Try again.
     
  16. PrincipleInvestment

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    Good grief ... where's the evidence that Trump accepted Russian campaign donations? Natalia Veselnitskya says Crooked Hillary knowingly accepted Russian campaign donations. Hillary claims to have no idea how $9 million in campaign funds GIVEN to Perkins Coie was used. What makes you think she can, or WILL account for $160 million that was collected, and spent by her super PACs? Post #70 has the link ...
     
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    Well, when you country is being run by a man who was installed in office with substantial covert help from agents of a rival power, you can't honestly claim that the man you voted for does not owe alliegance to agents in another country.

    And given that man has so far divided America's allies, weakened the US on the world stage, and has given these Russians much of what they wanted, the evidence it there.

    Since no one else seemed to bother pointing out the obvious to you.........
     
  18. PrincipleInvestment

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    Not playing your game ... derailing the discussion by baiting me into proving my own integrity is a sign of desperation. Do you have any citation to provide that supports the OP? The author does not, and unless you do, we'll leave it at that.
     
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    ThorInc seems convinced Hillary supporters were either so weak in their convictions, or so uninformed about the candidates, that all it took was some Facebook propaganda to flip their vote to Trump and give him the win. "Sad".
     
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    And how does this endanger my freedom?

    Personally, I have little interest in what happens in Crimea, for instance. But then again I am not a hawk eager to impose the American way of life on hapless foreigners to make them ripe for exploitation by Global Capitalists.
     
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    You talking about the US interference in the Israeli election?
     
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    Trump got the electoral votes he got because of less than 70,000 people. Fewer people than routinely show up for a major college football game.

    Since the Russian led media and fake news campaign reached 126 million Americans, there is a substantial argument to be made that it did play a major role. 70,000 isn't even 1/20th of one percent of 126 million. That's well within the realm of possibilities. The hit rate for junk mail, one of the least effective forms of advertising is more than 25 times that.
     
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    Post 70 makes no reference at all to Perkins Cole, or discusses anything about $9 million or $160 million. In fact, it does not back your claims at all.

    It does cite the role of Super Pac (but strangely does not talk about 501c4's).

    I have been talking about this since the day the Roberts court handed down that disasterous ruling.

    Funny how Velnitskaya is credible when she claims that Clinton accepted Russian money, but she's not a Russian agent when it comes to punking Donald Trump Jr with promises of "dirt" on Hillary Clinton.
     
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    Multiple debaters have been calling out your failing attempts to derail this thread with propaganda/smoke. The light is finally being shone on the RUssia/tRUmp seditious conspiracy and the hush money that the corrupt GOP Congress is taking right now to help cover it up.
     
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    "Derail this thread"? Like by pointing out that Leonard Blavatnik has dual citizenship as an American? And by pointing that there are others on the left (like Soros) who also donate to political campaigns?

    You complain that every opposing view is an attempt to "derail your thread", but I see you dodged my query as to the true intent of your thread anyhow...



     

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