Putin invites Trump to Moscow for a second meeting

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The threat is over, they've stopped saying they will destroy us and are willing to talk about getting rid of nukes.

    What do you consider the threat?

    And after he talked to Putin he said this,

    Trump says he holds Putin responsible for election meddling, defends Helsinki performance

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...on-meddling-defends-helsinki-performance.html

    Not sure why you are continuing to push lies.
     
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    If Trump cured cancer, Complex liars and creeps would complain about out of work oncologists.

    At this point, they have not only dug their own grave, but jumped in and half covered themselves with dirt.
     
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    Here? Trump.

    I guess we can shut this one down. I answered the OP's request for debate.
     
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    WTF are you talking about?'

    This imbicile has been going around insulting, belittling, bullying and disrespecting ALL of our allies for nearly two years.

    The Russians are heavily invested in Trump's real estate business. They own Trump, and Trump knows it.

    Putin as much as told the world that in Helsinki.

    One of the most embarrassing of this unbelievably embarrassing Administration was watching Trump make his cabinet secretaries grovel before him on television last year.

    But it was Putin who had Trump groveling in Helsinki.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How was Trump groveling again?
     
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    The threat from Russia is not over. Putin do not forget is a KGB operative at the Colonel level. He bemoaned that the biggest tragedy of the 20th century was the dissolution of the USSR. Russia 's aim is to weaken Europe to the point that is is no longer a deterrent to Russja's attacks be they economic, political, or military. Russia aims to try and get ahead of us in all ways. Russia still has a large nuclear force and they are modernizing it. Russia aims to to the predominant power on earth and anyone who does not understand that is either bing foolish or is burying their head in the sand.

    China is also s threat to uscand maybe more so than Russia in the short run. Our policy should be to get Russia nd China into a war sonthat the two enemies can either destroy each other or St least weaken each other so that they are no longer a threat to us.
     
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    Watch the press conference.
     
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    I did, I didn't see any groveling.

    On the other hand you folks see what you want to see.

    Trump came out and said he blamed Putin for meddling.

    Not sure what more you want.

    Should he have punched him or something?
     
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    You're talking about the guy who took Putin's word over that of our intelligence community on live TV all over the world, and actually said that the idea of turning a US diplomat to the Russian secret police was a good idea...…….
     
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    Yeah, several days later, after the press all over the world condemned his groveling in Helsinki.

    This is a pattern with him (and with Trumpsters).

    The first time we saw it was when he dragged his feet for days over David Duke.

    Then he endorsed the skinheads in Charlottesville and dragged his feet again for several days before condemning white supremacists.

    He just went to Helsinki and sided with the Russian dicatator over his own intelligence agencies.

    Once again, he drags his feet for days before he gets around to half blaming the Russians.

    And you Trumpsters pretend that his belated half hearted concessions are real.
     
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    No at the news conference he said it was 't Russia.
     
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    You hit a home run with that post.
     
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    Magnitsky Act passed in 2012 by an overwhelming majority and signed by Obama. That's when Russian Intel really steeped up efforts to co opt US politicians like Dana Rohrbacher and infiltrate the NRA who then were used as a conduit to funnel cash from Russia into the Trump campaign. The day after the Russian agent who was paid to infiltrate NRA was arrested, Trump administration decides that NRA does not have to disclose it's donor list. Kremlin Lawyer who met with Manafort and Trump Jr. In Trump Tower was here in the US lobbying to get the Magnitsky Act repealed. Trump, Russian trolls, Sean Hannity and other fake news outlets have coordinated to discredit FBI, DOJ and American Intel and any political adversaries KGB style since 2015. Collusion is as plain as the nose on your face. I watched the Chris Wallace/Putin interview on the Fox News YouTube channel last week and the comments were about 95% praising Putin as a strong and powerful leader while trashing the well respected Wallace as a liberal scumbag. I am sure that many commenters were Russian Intel agents but many of those sucking up to Putin were just your run of the mill "Hannitized" imbecile Fox News watchers who have been successfully propagandized by Putin's Intel guys. I hope Mueller totally exposes what exactly is going on here and soon.
     
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    Are you, then, admitting that it is only the extreme left-wing crazies, who are now going berzerk?

    There seem to be a bunch of them.
     
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    Double post......deleted.
     
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    I know it was a rhetorical Q but I will answer it anyway! Putin is Trump's boss, 'tis but obvious even to "Trumpers" in denial.
     
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    Right after it he blamed Putin, not sure what you are talking about.
     
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    I saw that interview too, although I did not see the comments afterwards.

    It was hard not to miss Putin's very obvious irritation with Wallace. Putin is not accustomed to reporters that even attempt to ask a challenging question, and he is certainly not used to (and clearly dislikes) being interrupted (granted, interrupting people is rude, but the television producers know it gets a rise out of the audience).

    I thought Wallace did a pretty good job.

    Are these people so blind that they would actually get angry at an American reporter NOT asking the Russian dictator fawning and obsequious questions??????
     
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    That's why the denials are even more rabid.

    But, a lot of them have stopped denying, and are now rationalizing.
     
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    I am glad to see President Trump ignoring the silly nonsense on the left and continuing America's business. The stupid "resistance" movement is harmful to our nation.
     
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    Ah. To be a civilian who thinks we should go to war with Russia. You guys are so naive.

    You'd have your wish if Hilldabeast won. She'd have us balls deep in Moscow while you cheer her on.

    Most military personnel actually DON'T want to go to war with Russia. It would be a bit different than Iraq...
     
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    It's open sedition.

    It's shocking, to me, that they would engineer such a wide-ranging campaign of hate and divisiveness. That they would rather see the country torn apart, than accept the temporary delay of their agenda, should disgust all Americans.

    The only thing that remains, is for them to take up arms against the country.

     
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    He clearly isn't ignoring the developments. After the Cohen revalation, his unsecured twitter phone went dead. He's hiding.
     
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    Ah yes, you right wingers are at it again.

    "The only thing that remains, is for them to take up arms against the country."

    Why do you far right wingers keep bringing this up????

    I have asked this question before. Predictably, the very right wingers who post this sort of thing denied that they do it.

    For some reason, this is a recurring right wing fantasy.

    You don't see liberals buying bogus claims about imaginary ISIS training camps in Mexico, FEMA concentration camps, imaginary ammunition shortages, imaginary immigrant hoards, or imaginary terrorists invading the US to spread Ebola (again from Mexico).

    But right wingers fell for every single one of these idiotic fantasies.
     
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