Putin Tells Diplomats He Made Trump a New Offer on Ukraine at Their Summit

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    So, hacked=interfered=meddled=colluded? It's no wonder the left is confused about their gender when they change definitions at will to push their agenda. No, Trump didn't back track. It is Lefties like you who backtrack after getting called on your lies and then it's no longer hacked, but back to meddled or interfered. Your cartoon doesn't seem to indicate some sort of proof, but with you guys, who needs proof?
     
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    No, but he could start a war if desperate enough.
     
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    I don't think so.. Russia is poor.. They have gas to sell so pipelines are important and they sell some wheat , but they aren't strong.
     
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    All of US intelligence agencies agreed.
     
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    Our intelligence agencies are in unison in saying Russia did it.
     
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    And Putinka is "sure"...of the outcome in East Ukraine??

    Unless he sends in "green men" to stage a fake referendum like he did in crimea!
     
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    Not all 22 articles and or tweets that used the photo, did you ?

    All part of the "resistance" before Trump even took the oath of office.

    It was the first sympthoms of TDS.

    Now the original photo shows Obama's White House staff who were clueless what they were seeing and what was taking place in Abbottaband and were completely out of the loop.

    Remember that it wasn't Obama who ordered Navy SEAL's to go into Pakistan but Admiral McRaven.
    Obama just signed of that the U.S. military could conduct a military operation in a sovereign nation which is required by law.

    President Obama was playing golf at the time and wasn't even notified that the operation was taking place until U.S. Army MH-60's had entered Pakistan air space.

    For the layman, if the mission failed, Admiral McRaven and Navy SEAL's would take 100% of the blame.

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    FYI:
    Months leading up to the mission, Navy SEAL's were ordered to stand down at least twice and possibly three times by the Obama White House.
    Why ? Because the Obama White House opposed the mission including VP Biden and Valerie Jarrett who actually wore the pants in the Obama White House and was the one who convinced Obama to back down and issue the stand down orders.

    This is when Obama threw everything in CIA Director's lap Leon Panetta lap who then threw it in Admiral McRaven's lap completely as usual with the Obama administration ignoring the military chain of command.

    Even before the Navy SEAL's were debriefed and "after action reports"were written up Obama went on television ignoringthe chain of command as usual and politicized the death of Osama bin Laden.

    BTW: It was Obama who ordered that Bin Laden be given a Muslim funeral at sea.
     
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    What, all 17of them ?

    The NYT retracted that fake news story.

    It was just three intelligence agencies that included just 12 hand picked intelligence analyst who determined it was the Russians who hacked the DNC without ever being able to have access to the DNC servers.
     
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    What was Hulk Hogan going to do?
    Ps. I was referring to the second photo.
     
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    Nobody believed in the beginning of the First World War. But the desire did not change reality
     
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    The photoshopped photo first appeared about a week or so after the election in November of 2016 first on Twitter by liberals and progressives who were going through the first stages of TDS. Some left wing fake news sources would also use the fake photo.
    Someone put some put some thought into it believing this is what Trump's administration would look like back in November of 2016.

    Notice that Hulk Holden is sitting in the chair that was occupied by former Sec of Def. Robert Gates in the freal photo.

    I assume that liberals believed that President Trump would appoint Hulk Holden as Sec. of Def. not "Mad Dog" Mattis

    Notice that Ivanka Trump is locked and loaded with some kind of rifle.

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    I hadn't seen this before. I'm enlightened.
     
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    As for this....

    Oh Golem, see another juvenile attempt by a Leftie to get under my skin with the immature Timmy stuff. I'll tell you what I told Golem, you are going to have to try harder to faze me. But, I don't think you can. The big advantage of Leftie group think is they all go by the same playbook and I am familiar with that playbook. Considering individual thought it impossible under group think, it's impossible to stray from that playbook, so I know the games you play. So fire away and see what good it does.
     
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    Frame a thought. A sentence. What is your argument? Seriously. Name the place, time, subject.
     
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    Try not to trip...………..

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    Trump doesn't have the balls to do anything. He is a Cuck.
     
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    President Trump Calls a Spade-a-Spade, What’s the Problem ?
    https://news.co.cr/president-trump-calls-spade-spade-whats-problem/69932/

    For you PC cultural-marxist, this is a spade and has nothing to do with black people.
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    To "call a spade a spade" is a figurative expression and politically incorrect. It is also referred to as "let's call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool" which refers to calling something "as it is", that is, by its right or proper name, without "beating about the bush"—being outspoken about it, truthfully, frankly, and directly, even to the point of being blunt or rude, and even if the subject is considered coarse, impolite, or unpleasant...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade
     
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    Oh yes, its a crazy idea, why would anyone support allowing ethnic Russians in Ukraine to vote for their self interest?

    Ukraine is the property of the colonial West and it must remain so, the Ukrainians be damned.

    Democracy Sucks
     
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    If the Referendum could be overseen by the United Nations, he has a deal. I do believe in self-determination for the Ukrainian people. And that is not for the EU(which sees Ukraine as no less of a colony than the Russians,) or for Russia to decide.

    It's my opinion that we shouldn't be involved but for EU-plutocrats who need Ukraine's wealth. They'll scream. Make no mistake, this is not about freedom, it's about which side Ukraine wants to be in serfdom to: The EU or Russia.
     
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    I think the fact that Russia has been gaslighting and propagandizing the hell out of those people in order to achieve this kind of a result muddies the matter a little.
     
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    Thing is, this is exactly like Poland, 1939. Only in this case, instead of Germany/Russia dividing Poland, it's Russia/EU fighting over economic possession of Ukraine. It's also why America should have no dog in this fight. Ukraine doesn't have much of an independent future between the blocs of European power, and that's always been true for the smaller European countries.

    When the EU decided economic colonalism, the US lost its ally right there, pre-Donald Trump. Europe has gone back to its tried and true old ways.
     
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    I don't think that's a fair assessment of the situation. Ukraine is not in the EU, so how can this be the EU fighting for economic possession of it? It is a matter of Ukrainain national sovereignty and the international community respecting that.
     
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