Does Islam have something similar to this: Would it be too much secular and temporal interference in Religion, to ask why any lack of faith in the execution of those morals, from the Judicature?
Quran talked about those morals (explicitly and implicitly) in several verses and different contexts. Prophet Muhammad also provided directives for each of them. i will show you (some) quotes from quran and you can search through internet about "prophet's hadiths" which means "Sayings of the Prophet Mohammed". i will not elaborate in those "hadiths" because it is a very big subject. --------------------------------------------- 1) A proud look israa:17:37-39 "And walk not in the earth exultant. Lo! thou canst not rend the earth, nor canst thou stretch to the height of the hills. // The evil of all that is hateful in the sight of thy Lord. // This is (part) of that wisdom wherewith thy Lord hath inspired thee (O Muhammad). And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell, reproved, abandoned. //" nisaa:4:172-173 "The Messiah (jesus) will never scorn to be a slave unto Allah, nor will the favoured angels. Whoso scorneth His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him; (172) Then, as for those who believed and did good works, unto them will He pay their wages in full, adding unto them of His bounty; and as for those who were scornful and proud, them will He punish with a painful doom. And they will not find for them, against Allah, any protecting friend or helper. (173)" furqan:63 "The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace; (63)" zumar 39:72 "It is said (unto them): Enter ye the gates of hell to dwell therein. Thus hapless is the journey's end of the scorners." luqman:18 "Turn not thy cheek in scorn toward folk, nor walk with pertness in the land. Lo! Allah loveth not each braggart boaster" imran:3:159 "It was by the mercy of Allah that thou wast lenient with them (O Muhammad), for if thou hadst been stern and fierce of heart they would have dispersed from round about thee. So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult with them upon the conduct of affairs. And when thou art resolved, then put thy trust in Allah. Lo! Allah loveth those who put their trust (in Him). (159)" Shuara:26:215 "And lower thy wing (in kindness) unto those believers who follow thee. (215)" ------------------------------------------ 2) a lying tongue tawba:9:119 "O ye who believe! Be careful of your duty to Allah, and be with the truthful. (119)" hud:11:18 "Who doeth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie concerning Allah? Such will be brought before their Lord, and the witnesses will say: These are they who lied concerning their Lord. Now the curse of Allah is upon wrong-doers, " baqara:2:169 "He enjoineth upon you only the evil and the foul, and that ye should tell concerning Allah that which ye know not. (169)" nahal:16:116 "And speak not, concerning that which your own tongues qualify (as clean or unclean), the falsehood: "This is lawful, and this is forbidden," so that ye invent a lie against Allah. Lo! those who invent a lie against Allah will not succeed. (116)" anaam:6:21 " Who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie against Allah or denieth His revelations? Lo! the wrongdoers will not be successful. (21)" you can read more about lies in islam by http://www.islamtomorrow.com/lies.asp -------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) and hands that shed innocent blood israa17:33 "And slay not the life which Allah hath forbidden save with right" nisaa:4:93 "Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom. (93)" furqan:25:68-70 " And those who cry not unto any other god along with Allah, nor take the life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, nor commit adultery - and whoso doeth this shall pay the penalty; // The doom will be doubled for him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein disdained for ever; // Save him who repenteth and believeth and doth righteous work; as for such, Allah will change their evil deeds to good deeds. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. // " maeda:5:32 " For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. (32)" nisaa:4:92 " It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless (it be) by mistake. He who hath killed a believer by mistake must set free a believing slave, and pay the blood-money to the family of the slain, unless they remit it as a charity. If he (the victim) be of a people hostile unto you, and he is a believer, then (the penance is) to set free a believing slave. And if he cometh of a folk between whom and you there is a covenant, then the blood-money must be paid unto his folk and (also) a believing slave must be set free. And whoso hath not the wherewithal must fast two consecutive months. A penance from Allah. Allah is Knower, Wise. (92)" takweer:81:8-9 "And when the girl-child that was buried alive is asked // For what sin she was slain, " ---------------------------------------------------------------- 4) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations baqara 2:10 " In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. (10)" maeda 5:52 "And thou seest those in whose heart is a disease race toward them, saying: We fear lest a change of fortune befall us. And it may happen that Allah will vouchsafe (unto thee) the victory, or a commandment from His presence. Then will they repent them of their secret thoughts. (52)" anfal 8:49 "When the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: Their religion hath deluded these. Whoso putteth his trust in Allah (will find that) lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise. (49)" tawba 9:125 "But as for those in whose hearts is disease, it only addeth wickedness to their wickedness, and they die while they are disbelievers. (125)" hajj 22:53 "That He may make that which the devil proposeth a temptation for those in whose hearts is a disease, and those whose hearts are hardened - Lo! the evil-doers are in open schism - (53)" noor 24:50 " Is there in their hearts a disease, or have they doubts, or fear they lest Allah and His messenger should wrong them in judgment? Nay, but such are evil-doers. (50)" ahzab 33:60 " If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbours in it but a little while. (60)" almudather 74:31 " We have appointed only angels to be wardens of the Fire, and their number have We made to be a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve; that those to whom the Scripture hath been given may have certainty, and that believers may increase in faith; and that those to whom the Scripture hath been given and believers may not doubt; and that those in whose hearts there is disease, and disbelievers, may say: What meaneth Allah by this similitude? Thus Allah sendeth astray whom He will, and whom He will He guideth. None knoweth the hosts of thy Lord save Him. This is naught else than a Reminder unto mortals. (31)" ---------------------------------------------------------------- 5) feet that be swift in running to mischief anaam 6:142 " And of the cattle (He produceth) some for burdens, some for food. Eat of that which Allah hath bestowed upon you, and follow not the footsteps of the devil, for lo! he is an open foe to you. (142)" baqara 2:208 "O ye who believe! Come, all of you, into submission (unto Him); and follow not the footsteps of the devil. Lo! he is an open enemy for you." noor 24:21 "O ye who believe! Follow not the footsteps of the devil. Unto whomsoever followeth the footsteps of the devil, lo! he commandeth filthiness and wrong. Had it not been for the grace of Allah and His mercy unto you, not one of you would ever have grown pure. But Allah causeth whom He will to grow. And Allah is Hearer, Knower. (21)" ---------------------------------------------------------------- 6) A false witness that speaketh lies furqan 26:72 "And those who will not witness vanity, but when they pass near senseless play, pass by with dignity. (72)" hajj 22:30 "That (is the command). And whoso magnifieth the sacred things of Allah, it will be well for him in the sight of his Lord. The cattle are lawful unto you save that which hath been told you. So shun the filth of idols, and shun lying speech, (30)" mujadala 58:2 "Such of you as put away your wives (by saying they are as their mothers) - They are not their mothers; none are their mothers except those who gave them birth - they indeed utter an ill word and a lie. And lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (2)" ------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) he that soweth discord among brethren hugurat 49:10 " The believers are naught else than brothers. Therefore make peace between your brethren and observe your duty to Allah that haply ye may obtain mercy. (10)" tawba 9:71 "And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey Allah and His messenger. As for these, Allah will have mercy on them. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise. (71)" anfal 8:62-63 " And if they would deceive thee, then lo! Allah is Sufficient for thee. He it is Who supporteth thee with His help and with the believers, (62) And (as for the believers) hath attuned their hearts. If thou hadst spent all that is in the earth thou couldst not have attuned their hearts, but Allah hath attuned them. Lo! He is Mighty, Wise. (63)" anfal 8:46 " And obey Allah and His messenger, and dispute not one with another lest ye falter and your strength depart from you; but be steadfast! Lo! Allah is with the steadfast. (46)" imran 3:103 "And hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, and do not separate. And remember Allah's favour unto you: how ye were enemies and He made friendship between your hearts so that ye became as brothers by His grace; and (how) ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. Thus Allah maketh clear His revelations unto you, that haply ye may be guided, (103)" tawba 9:11 "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. (11)" borooj 85:10 " Lo! they who persecute believing men and believing women and repent not, theirs verily will be the doom of hell, and theirs the doom of burning. (10)" tawba 9:47-49 "Had they gone forth among you they had added to you naught save trouble and had hurried to and fro among you, seeking to cause sedition among you; and among you there are some who would have listened to them. Allah is Aware of evil-doers. // Aforetime they sought to cause sedition and raised difficulties for thee till the Truth came and the decree of Allah was made manifest, though they were loth. // Of them is he who saith: Grant me leave (to stay at home) and tempt me not. Surely it is into temptation that they (thus) have fallen. Lo! hell verily is all around the disbelievers. (49)" baqara 2:191 "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (191)" taha 20:40 "When thy sister went and said: Shall I show you one who will nurse him? and we restored thee to thy mother that her eyes might be refreshed and might not sorrow. And thou didst kill a man and We delivered thee from great distress, and tried thee with a heavy trial. And thou didst tarry years among the folk of Midian. Then camest thou (hither) by (My) providence, O Moses, (40)" noor 24:63 " Make not the calling of the messenger among you as your calling one of another. Allah knoweth those of you who steal away, hiding themselves. And let those who conspire to evade orders beware lest grief or painful punishment befall them. (63)" israa 17:73-75 "And they indeed strove hard to beguile thee (Muhammad) away from that wherewith We have inspired thee, that thou shouldst invent other than it against Us; and then would they have accepted thee as a friend. (73) And if We had not made thee wholly firm thou mightest almost have inclined unto them a little. (74) Then had we made thee taste a double (punishment) of living and a double (punishment) of dying, then hadst thou found no helper against Us. (75)" maeda 5:49 " So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce thee from some part of that which Allah hath revealed unto thee. And if they turn away, then know that Allah's Will is to smite them for some sin of theirs. Lo! many of mankind are evil-livers. (49)" anfal 8:25 "O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and the messenger when He calleth you to that which quickeneth you, and know that Allah cometh in between the man and his own heart, and that He it is unto Whom ye will be gathered. (24) And guard yourselves against a chastisement which cannot fall exclusively on those of you who are wrong-doers, and know that Allah is severe in punishment. (25)"
The idea of a hierarchy of scripture is important if peace is to come between the Abrahamic religions! Author Robert Mendelson does a good job of drawing our attention to scriptures in the Koran........ that in my opinion should be considered something like the Sermon on the Mount of Christianity.......... or like the Ten Commandments of Judaism...... and other verses in the Koran written in a time of war......... should be put in their proper perspective! http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html
Thank you Snowkite....... do you agree with me that the ancient Islamic prophecy about deserts being turned green......and money being made abundant...... can play a significant role in bringing peace to the Middle East and to the whole world? http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans! Did you know that there is an Islamic prophecy that the Islamic desert regions would be turned green in the latter days????? ................ http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110 ............... The have updated their website.... and it is interesting that they have two experimental branches... one in Jordan one in Qatar. http://saharaforestproject.com/
This is kind of scientific question and I am not a specialist in the science of weather and the environment but i feel this, it will help feeding hungry poor people by producing more food to them. With regards to the Green desert prophecy, i say Yes, there is a prophet hadith (saying) with meaning that the Arabian Peninsula will ((return)) meadows and rivers at the end times. The hadith does not contains any information wither this will going to happen naturally or artificially, so I can not confirm how it will happen. By another source of hadith (speaker), the prophet used the word "return" which means that the Arabian Peninsula was green in the early times and it became dry on the days when the prophet Mohamed emerged which means the Arabian Peninsula was dry at least since 14th centuries. This hadith belongs to the set of Mohammed's sayings that are relevant to the signs of the end times. Those signs are divided into two segments. Minor signs and Major signs. We as Muslims noticed some of the minor sign that already emerged and we know them carefully. However, none of the major signs happen yet. if you are curious about those that emerged in our days, here is a link explaining them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8JQqXf-Jv8
I am beginning to listen to the video right now.......... the primary meaning of "mountains" being removed out of their places......… could be the governments of the world being put in a place of lower influence and real power as...… The Holy Spirit of the G-d of Abraham/ YHWH/ Allah......… is poured out on all flesh.......... and our freedom to destroy our lives is somewhat decreased?!?! ..... It seems to me that a near death experiencer was shown something along the line of this that sure seems to fit with the Koran... with the Jewish Bible as well as with the Christian scriptures......… http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04 The Future of the United States
p.s. Snowkite...… I was so impressed by your response # 106 that I sent the link to it by personal message to Mr. Robert Mendelson the author of..... http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/322565-gods-peace-plan-holy-land.html God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land I read this intriguing plan for peace in the Middle East twice already! It is about fifty pages and well worth your time to consider! http://www.godspeaceplan.org/ or if you prefer html over pdf....... http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html
Thank you, i've surfed through the website of the sahara desert project. It seems a great idea to save our planet by decreasing the amount of CO2 in the air and saving some places in the world from rising oceans as well as producing more foods to feed poor people in the world. just to let you know that i downloaded the pdf file of "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" and i already started reading it but i didnt finished it yet. My initial thinking on the idea of bringing all Abrahamic religions together and make peace between them, is exactly matching with the Quran. In Sura Imran 3:64, in which God has commanded the Prophet Muhammad when he was trying to discuss his duty to convey God's final message with the ancients Christians and Jewish who were living with Arabs. Imran 3:64 "Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). (64)" so i believe that dialogues between Abrahamic religions will lead to significant progress in bringing peace in the holy land and to the rest of the world too. but the question is, How can this be achieved in a world which is governed by political interests and exclusionary policies.
Every attempt to share truth including sharing factual truth to Muslims that Mohammed got it all wrong is consider an aggressive act against them that is consider an attacked that gives them the right to defend themselves that is why they have very strict laws against proselytizing that are punishable by death.
True peace and treaties can only happened if none Muslims submit to Islam any other treaties with the absence of submission are just temporary, until such time that Muslims have gain greater power to change and force a new treaty that require submission.
i would like to comment on your post if you dont mind, your quote was talking about the deals between "believers and non-believers" whereas your comment was talking about the deals between Muslim believers and non-Muslim believers !! in other way, between "believers and believers" . Therefore, you should know that those two subjects are considered in Islam as two different issues. i will put my comment (knowledge) on both, but dont consider my comments as the full correct comments because i am not an Islamic scholar but i will comment according to my level of knowledge and will give you answers from Islamic scholar. 1) Deals between "Muslim believers and non-Muslim believers": There is no contradiction between "Islam" and your freedom to speech. i totally dont agree with your post but i do respect your opinion and feelings.In fact, this one of the big misconception about Islam noways. This is very simple, dont mix politics with God's words. As i mentioned earlier in my first post on this thread the following (.... Second thing, you should differentiate between Islamic ethics and current Muslim behaviors. Why ? because some of them are "a Muslim by name" and they dont understands any of its ethics, some others behaviors are affected by politics and global organizations ....) So, i have admitted that some muslim does not follow islamic ethics correctly. i cannot say "muslims" are all pure good. bad people are always exists in every nation but dont mix thier behaviours with god's ethics. The Oxford Union in UK organized a Debate Q&A with Dr Zakir Naik, one of the famous Islamic schoolar nowdays, and he was asked about your question regarding proselytizing and freedom of speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3nCj3hZ1IE That full debate is available in YouTube in a 7 videos-series and it clarifies some misconception about Islam. 2) Deals between "believers and non-believers": Mr. sawyer has initially get to know that Islam is completely intolerant of non believers and considers them the enemy but we as muslims look at it in different way !!! i said earlier dont judge by initial reading. A Hindu person asked Dr zakir night the same question and does quran said to kill non-muslims or non-believers. see his answer here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-hzignPbQ and this is another misconception that the global media promotes everyday against Islam. as i mentioned in my first post on this thread (.... you should first ask the proper concerned (educated) people that should guide you to quran scientist which understands the meaning of quran very well because reading and judging without understanding the history of revelation of each verse can give you misleading comprehension....). That kind of misleading comprehension might be enhanced by the misdirected media around us. There is a huge media promoting lies against Islam in our planet, wither you believe or dont believe, you should aware of this while reading the Quran.
When you submit, the Submission is made to God but not to the religion which is called by the word "Islam". I understands your point. Your understanding of the word "Islam" is that Islam is a name of a religion of those who follow Quran. However, you actually dont know what is the exact meaning of the word "Islam" in Arabic language and i dont know why English language translators could not translate it in English. The word "Islam" is derived from the Arabic root "salama" which means "peace", it is also used in Hebrew "shalom" and in the ancient Aramaic language. In Arabic that root "salama" also means "submit" and "surronder". Yousef estes, said that the word "Islam" in Arabic should be translated in English by five words (5 in 1). Those five words in English are (surrounder+submit+obey+sincerity+peace = "Islam" in Arabic language). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7rJo7BdeQY so your understanding of "submit to Islam" in English is is different than the exact meaning of "submit to Islam" in Arabic 1- you surrounder your will to the will of almighty god 2- you submit to his commandments 3- you obey to Him 4- You do it in sincerity 5- peace so there is no conflict between being a Muslim or christian or Jewish as long as you understands the meaning of the word "Islam" which is not translated in English correctly.
Unfortunately in the debate Dr. Zakir blames the media he did not answer the question at all in fact if it is not for the none Muslim media Muslim and none Muslim around the world would not have known that in Islam there exist no freedom of speech. If freedom of speech exist as we know it then Muslims need not have to fear to be punished for speaking out. Muslims in Muslim countries have been punished severely that included death for speaking out but Muslim in none Muslim countries enjoy freedom of speech to spread their religion without fear including false claims about Jesus Christ. The inception of the Quran is to spread worldwide lies about God. Islamic media have been spreading and promoting misconception about Christianity but most of all about the West. The only place that thousands of persecuted Muslims are fleeing from are from Muslim countries and are able to find safe haven in Western countries. The problem is Muslims especially the scholars have refused to accept factual facts and usually the end solution for them is always been for them to use force or violence to protect their misguided understanding of God or to blame the West for their problems. Only in the West are we able to research, discuss, debate and understand Islam that is why Western Islam is different from the Middle Easter Islam. In the West what is being promoted is the peaceful aspects of Islam the first decades of Mohammed's teachings not the later teachings that is full of hatred, violence and anti Christian, anti Jew. Sadly, Middle East or extreme or "real" Islam is penetrating the West and many Western Muslims are starting to lean towards the extreme or real Islam rather than standing up against it and take strong actions to stem the spread of Islamophobia against the West.
There are over 1 billion adherents to Islam and you would claim they never discuss and debate and that they are all evil.. Islam was for the people of the Arabian peninsula .. a call to return to the God of Abraham, but YOU know better .....
Those five tenets are identical to Christian teachings' the difference is that in Islam the submission the obeying is to the authority that represents Islam that implement harsh and violent punishment against all who refused to adhere no separation of state and mosque.
There is what I believe is a maybe a Sufi saying along the lines of a donkey with a load of religious texts is still a donkey. The problem is not religion. The problem is that some people are just messed up whether they are religious or not. There is no difference between killing someone in the name of a deity and killing someone because you are bored and looking for something to do. They are just as dead either way.
The point is, under our supreme law of the land; the only moral defense is when Religion and the morals of Religion are used for Goodness and not Badness.
I have no idea what you mean. Can you point to a law that says "As long as you do good in the name of God, you're not guilty of a crime you otherwise would be guilty of" as that sounds like what you are alleging.
That's interesting.How do you explain the fact that when an group of Christians entered an Islamic area in one of our cities, they were met with abuse and threats by the Muslims. When all the Abrahamic religions come to realise that their beliefs are built on myths and superstition, maybe they will come to their senses. There's not a shred of evidence for any of the Patriarchs. The story of Abraham contains errors which make the story nonsense. Ditto Moses and the Exodus. You only have to study the history of the time to see this.
1 billion Muslims and many are fleeing to seek refuge in Western countries because there too many evil Muslims that are threatening them with violence and death while others that can not flee have no choice but to submit to the will of the many evil Muslims that are succeeding in taking over their country. Only the intervention of Western military is stopping from a total downfall of Muslim countries to fall under evil Muslim armies. Muslims have been invited to return to the God of Abraham but they have refused instead their leaders continue to hold them under bondage refusing to set them free. The only discussion and debate they have under their society is for them to accept their fate and to submit to the will of the leadership.
Those laws that forbid murder, rape, theft and pedophilia are present in all decent democratic countries with the separation of church and state but sadly no separation of state and mosque.
That's nonsense. What do you think Sharia law is all about. And as to peadophilia, what the West sees is different to what other cultures think. Can we force our laws on them? It may surprise you to know that in Medieval times girls as young as 12 were married in the West. Boys at 17. So what is peadophilia? The laws of nature say that when an animal is old enough, and ready, it will bear offspring. We are advanced enough animals to give our children enough time to mature, rightly so. We have no need to produce to survive.
