refusing to facilitate marriage for religious belief

You should be able to make whatever agreement you like with another consenting adult. You've got me all wrong.

I'm an Atheist lol.

 

Sorry.

The majorty of the time when I hear that argument it's from Christians who make the usual claim that only a chruch should be allowed to marry.

Personally i'd love to see the end of marriage period.

 

Yes.

Yes. And they already are.

Yes. And they already are.

Yes. No idea on that one.

Yes. And then he should be fired from his government job.

All marriages are accommodated.
There is someone everywhere that will gladly marry you gays.

Why does everyone have to conform to your beliefs?
Why is it never enough?

 

My question is...

Why is religion involved in marriage? It has always been a civil arrangement. Perhaps religion doesn't belong in the civil governing apparatus as a functional feature.

 

I seem to remember a woman suing a state because she was told she couldn't where a cross. Why is it everyone has to conform to your beliefs, I'm sure she could have found a job that would have allowed her to wear her cross. Why is it Christians want people to conform to their beliefs, but then not to others?

 

Laws equal righteousness to some people.

It's not enough to live and let live, some people must conquer to live.

 

I wouldn't know why she fought it, or if the story is even true (nor do I care).
Nor do I know any Christians who are doing what you claim.
And since I clearly don't... I am not sure why you wasted your time asking me the question.

Can't say I'm sorry I missed the thread-after-thread-after-thread-after-thread-after-thread-after-thread of "government protected" (ha) Christians whining and complaining in their Christians Rights Forum every time something happened in their life that they didn't like, though.

Eh, that's unimportant....
I'm just thrilled that 19 of the 20 bakeries near me will sell me a wedding cake.
Now... should I give my money to one of the 19.... or sue the 20th...

 

My reply isn't just for you , it is for others to read. So if you feel I am wasting your time don't respond then.

Seems for someone who "doesn't care", you still responded to my post LOL. Next time, just don't bother.

 

for many, it is a way to profess your love for each other in front of the Creator and to ask for blessings upon your marriage.

It is part of our faith. It is what we do.

With respect to legality, a J.P. can do it. I'm not sure if a notary is all that is required??????????

 

I said I didn't care if your story was true.... (it's all right there.. in English, too).

I still gladly set you straight (no pun) on the realities of life, even if you just thought it was.



Anyway.... back to my government protected life wondering who to complain about (then sue) next.

 

A public employee and, to wit, the issue at hand.

Slipped in under the RADAR and not the issue at hand.

A paraplegic gay couple could apply for a marriage license even if it was impossible for them to ever have sex.

 

no Christian wants anyone to conform, your assumption is wrong

Here's a few question:

Do you ever use the word goodbye?

Have you ever known or yourself been..................a good Samaritan?

Have you ever created or used a template for anything?

Have you ever sought sanctuary from the weather?

Have you ever created, stapled onto a bulletin board or read a bulletin ?

Do you know the origins of the words?

 

So is baptism but you don't tangle civil law up with that. Why can't church/club rituals be carried out without the government entanglements?

So church/club entanglements aren't necessary?

 

nope, many choose to have a service with clergy but it is not necessary. Since homosexuals elect to go against Christianity, then they should never expect a Christian church to perform any service for them until such time as they have cast away their life of gay sex

 

There are plenty of Christian churches that will preform wedding services for gay couples.

But you are missing the point, perhaps because you aren't really making one, the church either needs to provide the service or step down.

 

Sure they do. Your side has even cited religious text to try and stop SSM. You also want America to conform to YOUR biblical values.

 

It is you who is missing the point. You so badly need to believe that the homosexual lifestyle is acceptable within the Christian faith.

That is not the case. To go to a Christian church and ask for a homosexual wedding is akin to asking them to renounce God.

Just because you need it to be OK does not make it so. The govt has no business to make demands of clergy to perform any service for an unrepentant homosexual

 

I don't really care that it's acceptable in your faith. Seems you suffer from a tad bit of narcissism.

well generally Christian churches renounce your false God.

Than it seems the church has no further business conducting governmental services such as marriages. I'm cool with that.

 

The government isn't trying to do this. Churches, mosques, synagogues even private associations for secular humanists are all exempt from performing religious ceremonies for anyone they choose.

 

Exactly.
Which makes the first post, and the entire thread, a joke.

More fauxrage from the gays.

 

If that's the case there has never been a logical reason to oppose same sex marriage.

 

It is the case in the US.

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Glad you can see that one.

Nope, the OP was talking about people's religious beliefs affecting their duties in a public capacity:

......not in a private one per my post. It's an important distinction and if you think about it hard enough if will become clear.

You just really wanted to say "fauxrage" didn't you? The context wasn't that important but you had to get it out.

 

I can. And already addressed it earlier in the thread.

While asking a bunch of moot questions because they are already answered.
Again... as I already addressed earlier in the thread.

Actually I wish it didn't exist, but...

When an OP asks questions like:

To which you agree with me that they already can....

Fauxrage is exactly what it is.