Relax, Obama has Stopped Climate Change,..Seriously he Believes That

"Climate change is not a problem for another generation," Obama said. "Not anymore."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/02/obama-set-to-announce-steeper-emissions-cuts-from-us-power-plants/?intcmp=hpbt1

Close this branch of the forum, nothing left to talk about........

This man is beyond belief. These are the "accomplishments" he claims:

Stopped a depression (in truth he is delaying the recovery from a recession)
Got everyone insurance (well a few anyway, with $10,000 deductibles)
Prevented WWIII in the middle east - to laughable to talk about
Stopped climate change and saved future generations

 

Actually the morons at FOX and those who think it is a source of news are beyond belief.

And remember, Elmer Fudd was always the stooge, which makes us wonder why you would choose Elmer Fudd as you icon of intelligent thought.

 

because it isn't a news source? I'm confused what you think they are?

 

Are you saying that when Fox News repeats obama's own statement that Obama's statement is miraculously made false? LOL your political blinders are so huge its amazing you can read.

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Liars will keep lying, and telling bigger lies, as long as they are allowed to lie. What's really beyond belief is the people that actually still support this obama after all his wild lies.

 

Lololol another brilliant conservative op....

"climate change isn't a problem for another generation..."

He isn't saying its solved.... He's saying it needs to be addressed by this generation not the next.... Jesus (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Christ... Reading comprehension...

 

Oh thank heavens. I can take the glock out of my mouth. Phew, that was close, I was at breaking point.

 

They are so desperate to find ways to demean Obama that they have to use deliberate misreading of what he said. Obama supporters should take comfort from the fact that they find it necessary to use deliberate lies to make their attacks.

 

So you haven't answered my questions about Fox news. What, are you afraid to cause you will lose face?

 

Let me give you a hint. News is a reporting of facts, usually in a fair and balanced manner. Doubt any person of intellect would accuse FOX of meeting that criteria.

 

Since in polls and ratings ratings they are consistently the most watched and most trusted, I would say you statement is obviously false.....at least to any "person of intellect"

 

Quite right Joe, I should have listened to the whole video (has nothing to do with reading). Of course listening to the video, turned up several other Obama-Lies, like him saying power plants are the single biggest source of Carbon.....I believe it is actually termite farts. And many other nature sources put out far more, but his mighty pen cannot affect them, so he gives them a pass.....LOL

 

I see Elmer still doesn't understand something as basic as an equilibrium system, despite it being painfully described to him before. A second grader could grasp the concept, but most deniers can't. That's why deniers need to sit themselves down at the kiddie table and stop bothering the grownups. Nearly all of them are just painfully ignorant of even the most basic science and logic.

Oh, Elmer also misses that termites make methane, not CO2. Everything President Obama said was accurate. He never claimed power plants were the majority CO2 source on earth; that weird claim comes solely from Elmer's imagination. President Obama said the majority of US emissions comes from power plants, which is entirely correct. The only person pushing bogus information here is Elmer.

 

As always with Mammout, I must take his rambling rants one at a time:

1) equilibrium's exist because they are robust. They have buffers and automatic adjusters...if they did not - well they would not exist. That is why the earth has survived natural influxes of CO2 orders of magnitude greater that anything man can do - without becoming a lifeless rock that the alarmist claim my barbaque will cause....as CO2 goes up, the elements of the system that thrive on CO2 also expand, and the equilibrium is maintained. Man's input into the system has been so tiny the adjustment are only now beginning to be measurable.
2) Mr Obama is a masterful deceiver. He may get away with technically telling the truth (like Nixon or your past God-in-Office Clinton when he said he was not having sex with that girl..... Yes power plants are the largest man-made source in the USA, but the USA does have termites......Obama is trying to convince people that a small reduction in a very small source will make a difference.
3) And what about those termites? You say they do not make CO2, only methane ---WRONG, they do perform respiration, do they not? (You see I can be silly about "technical truths" too).
4) BTW if you knew anything really about the physics involved in this issue you would know that methane is 21-22 times MORE of a greenhouse gas that CO2. Again you and Obama ignore things that do not meet your political agenda.
5) Finally, Mr Obama claims we can switch to "green" sources away from fossil fuels AND get lower electric bills in the process !! Only lying politicians like hims, and liberal sheep (that's you) can possibly believe we can switch to a more expensive system and get lower bills. I believe he made the same claim about Obama Care. Go out in the real world and talk to some people that were perfectly fine buying their own insurance UNTIL Obama Care took over - see what they say.

NO it is the same-old song and dance about a coming catastrophe that seems to be put off every decade further and further when no predictions come true. It is all about the "redistribution of wealth" from people like me who have real jobs, to people like you who do not. A blind man can see it with a cane.

 

but..but..What about all those cow and termite farts?

 

I believe Obama's actions certainly delayed the bottoming out of the recession, a point that has to be hit before a recovery can take place and his policies has caused the recovery to be a mighty slow one instead of one that gains steam. On the ACA a couple of reports from Gallup and one from Kaiser shows his signature healthcare law has hurt close to twice as many people as it has helped. The last one I seen said the ACA has hurt 27% of the people and helped 16%. 54% say it had no effect. That certainly is something to be proud of and strange how the supporters of the ACA ignore those whom their law hurt.

Personally I think the middle east is a lot worst off than when Obama first took over. There was no ISIS then, Libya was ruled by Qaddafi. It was not a safe haven for terrorist and a training ground for them as it is today. Assad was in charge in Syria, no ISIS then threatening to take control of Syria and a huge portion of Iraq. The middle east is a cluster.

Climate Change or Global warming, his actions has caused the poor to pay much more for their power. I really see nothing to be proud of.

 

It's what some of the folks who can't come up with something better to say do. Remember the whole fiasco about the "you didn't build that' line that was cherry picked out of a speech and presented with no context. That was so incredibly ridiculous and people were eating it up. I wonder how many folks even knew there was more to the speech than just that one snippet.

 

yep, here is what Obama said:
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business. you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

It's exactly what he said. he insulted hard working people who invested their own capital to give others jobs. it's really ashame you have no understanding of how anything works. And the government built no road or no bridge. I would like to know the agency name that did if you claim otherwise.

 

Well said. Bravo!

The poster you quoted is obviously just another blind Obama apologist.

 

Wow, even with the full text you still manage to stubbornly insist he's saying something he's not. His entire point is, everything that we have here wasn't just here when we got here. WE built it. Not everyone in the same capacity, but together as a nation. And it doesn't mean that the successful business owner didn't get that way through hard work, it just means that the successful business owner didn't create everything his business utilizes to be successful. He didn't build the roads, he didn't build the infrastructure, he didn't create the laws that allow a civil society to flourish and business to be good. It's about opening your eyes and seeing the bigger picture beyond just your own infinitesimal life.

It's not me that seems to have no understanding of how things actually work.

 

And you're what, in favor of blind willful ignorance? If this Obama character is so bad, why must you mischaracterize him in order to make a point? It doesn't exactly lend credence to your insinuation that Obama is terrible when you can't even criticize him honestly. I mean, my God, there's no shortage of legitimate things to criticize him for! You could throw a quarter into the wind off your front porch and probably hit something legitimate to criticize him for.

 

dude, you're a blind fool. Not sure what you think 'you didn't build that' means. But it doesn't politely say your investment was through someone elses pocket. See folks like you don't have a frkin clue what it takes to start a business. it takes money, and money is from hard work, an individuals hard work. overtime, sweat, ingenuity, sacrifice and many other personal factors, family to say the least, time, getting funding from others. It's an insult nothing less. And don't ever forget that.

Edit: BTW, a person walking in and buying cigarettes using food stamps is slapping society in the face.

 

A person of intellect rarely relies on polls as a determinant of the truth.

 

The FOX viewers thought it was the entire speech.

 

Considering that I am one of three original employees of a small manufacturing and design business and have been since 2005, I know quite a bit more about this then you've been told by who knows who to believe I do. I've been there since we've doubled and then doubled again our yearly revenue, added new employees, moved to a new facility. I am one of two engineers(the other being my boss the president) and also the webmaster and solo IT guy. At this point I've probably been on a hundred or more road trips with my boss, sometimes for hours at a time, and he talks to me about the business and the problems and opportunities we've had along the way. He started the business in his basement where he had it for a couple years until he moved to this area and rented some space from another manufacturing company that no longer had the business to utilize all their machines. I joined months after that initial move, which at that point was just my boss and his son. Now our company is up to 8 total employees, including my boss. I've been involved in quite a few of the decisions made regarding the direction and future of the business. When we've hit rough patches, I've taken temporary pay cuts or waited on cashing my paycheck until we had the money in the bank to cover them. I've been involved with decisions ranging from what health insurance provider and package we should get for the company to how to arrange all of our machines and computers when we moved to our new building so that they could be wired together and connected with the computers in our offices, and what machines(costing tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars) we should look towards getting in the future.

But nice try. Unfortunately, outright dismissal is not actually a legitimate debate tactic just because you can't come up with an argument that addresses what I actually said in my reply to you. Even having been through the growing pains and hardships of a small business, including weathering the slump in 2008-2009 that almost saw us go out of business, I am still able to parse what Obama said without thinking he's saying that successful business owners did nothing to make their business successful. I'm capable of doing that because I didn't read the text of the speech with a predetermined bias that made me misinterpret things to match that bias. Hard work and sacrifice are what makes my employer still able to be an employer, but it doesn't mean he pulled this business right out of his ass. He was able to be successful because of the country we live in and the infrastructure and services that already exist here. Take away either that OR the hard work and sacrifice and both outcomes would be that we would have no business.

I have no idea where this comment came from, but you cannot buy cigarettes with food stamps legally.

 

I am still able to parse what Obama said without thinking he's saying that successful business owners did nothing to make their business successful.

Here let me post the statement one more time for you. Out of Obama's lips, no one elses.

"If you've got a business. you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"