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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    RelCovaxTM is a new true vaccine being developed from the virus using international standards.

     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    How many successful vaccines against coronavirus have ever been created?

    I'm pretty sure the number is -0-

    I'm pretty sure 21USC360 prohibits the development of vaccines for diseases with existing successful therapies.

    Why vaccinate against a virus with a 99% survival rate?

    Why vaccinate against a virus that can be defeated by a healthy immune system?
     
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    The flu has a high survival rate and we still vaccinate against that. While the left spread a lot of lies regarding the pandemic, it is not a lie that over 700,000 people in the US have died from the virus and millions around the world. I don't think most people are fine with letting the old and the sick and the weak die. And medical systems around the world are overwhelmed to the point where they can't provide regular care anymore.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The flu vaccines don't work very well at all, and they are not mandated by the government or industry. Over many years, I know quite a few people who regularly took the flu shot and still caught the flu.

    I'm sure the pharma rationalization is that "well, they caught the flu anyway, but it didn't kill them". All that is rationalization and nothing more.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you, but your 700,000 number is grossly inaccurate on many levels. The numbers have been manipulated from the start, and many dozens of whistleblowers have pointed that out, perhaps hundreds of whistleblowers. You might not know that there is no isolated SARS 2 coronavirus, not in any of 90 countries in the world whose governments have responded thusly to many FOIA requests.

    So if there is no isolated virus, how could it have caused death?

    Do you understand that humans in government and industry often misrepresent things?
     
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    because the 1% who die would most likely appreciate it? 1% of 330 Million is how many lives saved?

    Does everyone have a healthy immune system? The very old? the very young? Cancer Patients? Those with aids and other medical issues?

    It’s kind of what we do as a country and world. We can see problems and we can fix, repair or perhaps make things better.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but what we do as a country is commit military aggression against other nations, as we please. We kill and destroy, by way of drones and other things.

    What we do as a country is demand that all citizens conform to the misguided majority and have themselves injected with toxins. And that includes children, by God, for a phantom virus with a survival rate of 99%
     
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    BOTH sides are grossly misrepresenting things. To think that only one side does it is being partisan and biased in itself. It is not a lie or a misrepresentation that hospitals are being overwhelmed with Covid patients just about everywhere. Both sides are lying out of their asses to push their agenda. There are nutcases on both the left and the right. The left squashes all the information they can to push their pro-vaccine agenda while the right lies about many things to push their ant-vax agenda. I just want people to know the WHOLE truth, not just the truth pushed by one side or the other.
     
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    No comment on my post? Just some random rant about nothing?
    So the 1% who dies wouldn’t or shouldn’t be able to get treatment that will help them live? How many Americans is that? How many world wide people is that?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hypotheticals don't do much for me, sorry to disappoint.

    If you don't understand that the data has been manipulated from the start, we really don't have much to discuss. Public healthcare delivered by profitable corporations will eventually fail.
     
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    Actually... we don't "Vaccinate" against the flu. We have flu shots that frankly aren't very effective, and yet folks still get them... We have vaccines that do work. Small Pox, Measles... etc. Flu has never been one of them, but if virologists can actually develop something that isn't outdated the second it is shipped... more power to them.
     
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    One thing hardly mentioned is this pathogen is not of nature! This one was man made, manipulated to evolve/mutate unlike normal occurring virus's before it..

    Then again, this is because of Chineses loyalty and payment for the toppling of a President so hated that sacrifice, any sacrifice was acceptable....
     
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    We do vaccinate against flu. The problem is that we vaccinate for last year's strain of the flu. We are doing the same thing now with covid. We vaccinate against delta with a vaccine designed for alpha. So far the vaccines still provide some benefits. That is likely to change with coming strains.
     
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    You really don't seem to be current on this. When vaccinated folks get the COVID shots, they still get COVID, irrespective of the variant. That is the science. Why quibble?
     
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    Because those with delta have higher viral loads. The vaccines worked reasonably well until delta arrived.
     
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    To be clear here, you haven't any scientific data to support your assertion here. Nor do I think you understand the terms you are trying to use.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, you are not in the business or habit of proving scientific data, nor are you in the habit of being informed about what's happening around the world 9 months after the clot shots were administered. Thus, you either are not aware of, or do not care about the fact that in populations all around the world including the US, high rates of 'vaccination' lead quickly to high rates of infection. For you that is irrelevant.
     
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    You confuse lack of knowledge with an unwillingness to get stoked up about vanishingly rare occurences. Vaccines do not increase rates of infection. The virulence of the delta strain is doing that. Stop the misinformation. It doesn't help anything.
     
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    Vanishingly rare occurrences? Only to those with their eyes closed, lips and ears sealed view it as vanishingly rare.

    Detroit TV station asks for stories of unvaxed COVID deaths, gets overwhelming response on deaths and injuries from the vaccines – IOTW Report

    180,000 responses to just one query.
     

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