Religious Oddities #1

The Euphrates basin floods periodically when spring snowmelt coincides with spring rains.. that's how the delta was built below Basra in the area where the Marsh Arabs lived. The Noah story is about one such flood in 2900 BC that is confirmed by the Sumerian King's list and flood sediment. Noah's Ark is a fairy story... it should be understood as didactic literature about redemption.

 

A global flood with one family escaping is recorded in civilizations on every continent. That is difficult to reconcile with your local West Asian flood.
There are volumes of scientific evidence for a massive global flood.

 

There always have been local floods but there is NO evidence.. not a shred... for a global flood.. That's why Egypt, Anatolia and even Jericho have NEVER been flooded.. NO flood sediment.

 

The Noah flood story is just a war story. In addition it is also a version of the Adam & Eve story. But it certainly is not about an actual flood that covered the tops of the highest mountains on the planet.

 

I can provide thousands of shreds of scientific evidences for a global flood, but you wouldn't care. It does not fit in your paradigm.

 

What was the highest peak on Earth before the tectonic plates shifted and formed the mountain ranges we see today, (if you even believe the Earth's plates moved to form mountains).

 

No its not... LOLOL.. Stop making things up.

West Asia? That part of the world is called the Near East or the Middle East.. The Area of the flood was 150 miles wide and 350 mile south towards the Persian Gulf.

 

Well, the fairy tale says that Assyria, Ethiopia, Persia, and Arabia were just down the road from the Garden of Eden with Adam & Eve and that those places were just fine after the flood. Since most people who believe in the flood don't believe in evolution how did fresh water fish appear? And where did all of the fresh water lakes and rivers come from so quickly that Noah and the ark animals could drink from?

It must have been magic!

 

Well, if God is supposed to be all powerful, and Satan is not, then the ball is still in God's court.

 

No you can't provide any evidence of a worldwide flood.. The story is didactic literature.. don't turn it into a bad joke on ignorant people.

 

Sorry pal, I don't have any religious dogma unlike you. What point is there to prove?

Monkeys don't exist in Sweden for a number of possible reasons. Maybe there were monkeys at some time in the past. A change in climate might not have been to their liking so they moved on or died out. Maybe monkeys never existed in Sweden in the first place due to climatic conditions. Maybe the Vikings were responsible for their extinction Who really gives a bugger if there are no monkeys in Sweden?

No monkeys in Sweden doesn't substantiate Noah's ark and a great global flood in any way, shape or form. No scientific proof to present. Why don't you look in your Bible, there may be references to monkeys in Sweden?

 

Ball's in your court.

 

So prove it ... Jericho and Egypt and Lebanon were never flooded.

 

They were flooded. Prove they weren't.

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At least I got balls to stand for the truth and not simply parrot what myths I was indoctrinated with in school.

Try reading 1/10 of what I have read on evolution.

 

Geologists and archeologist say they weren't flooded which really is hysterically funny since Jericho is about 1,000 feet below sea level..

Have you been to Egypt or the Holy Lands?

Noah's Ark is a morality tale... its NOT history.

 

I'd like to know what happened to all that water? I mean if it flooded to the top of the highest mountains, then where is all that water now? The ice caps don't hold enough water to flood the world to the highest mountains.

 

Does the Californication school system ever teach about oceans in the world other than the Pacific? How deep they are, how many there are? Plus the lakes and streams?

Have you never heard of the volume of water in the subterranean (that's means underground) water table?

 

Well according to Natural born the flood was in 2500 BC.. and the young earth creationists claim the land was FLAT and that the mountains, Alps etc popped up AFTER the flood..

 

Which geologists and archeologist [sic] say they weren't flooded? How did they arrive at that opinion? Was Jericho always 1,000 feet below sea level, Was the sea level always 1,000 feet above Jericho?

Since we are discussing scientific facts, theories and hypotheses, it would be nice if SOMEONE would provide some science to bolster their snippets of false conjecture.

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So you do NOT believe the tectonic plates ever moved pushing the terrain upwards into mountain ranges. Why am I not surprised?

 

They have excavated Jericho ... it has some 9 layers built on top of one another.. Many university affiliated digs have gone on over the years.

Archaeologists have unearthed the remains of more than 20 successive settlements in Jericho, the first of which dates back 11,000 years (9000 B.C.),[8] almost to the very beginning of the Holocene epoch of the Earth's history.

Jericho is described in the Hebrew Bible as the "City of Palm Trees". Copious springs in and around the city attracted human habitation for thousands of years...

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Geography[edit]





Jericho cable car
Jericho is located 258 metres (846 ft) below sea level in an oasis in Wadi Qelt in the Jordan Valley.[6][12][60] The nearby spring of Ein es-Sultan produces 3.8 m3 (1,000 gallons) of water per minute, irrigating some 10 square kilometres (2,500 acres) through multiple channels and feeding into the Jordan River, 10 kilometres (6 mi) away.[12][60] Annual rainfall is 160 mm (6.4 in), mostly concentrated between November and February. The average temperature is 15 °C (59 °F) in January and 31 °C (88 °F) in August. The constant sunshine, rich alluvial soil, and abundant water from the spring have always made Jericho an attractive place for settlement

Archaeology[edit]

See also: Syro-Palestinian archaeology

The first excavations of the site were made by Charles Warren in 1868. Ernst Sellin and Carl Watzinger excavated Tell es-Sultan and Tulul Abu el-'Alayiq between 1907–1909 and in 1911, and John Garstang excavated between 1930 and 1936. Extensive investigations using more modern techniques were made by Kathleen Kenyon between 1952 and 1958. Lorenzo Nigro and Nicolo Marchetti conducted excavations in 1997-2000. Since 2009 the Italian-Palestinian archaeological project of excavation and restoration was resumed by Rome "La Sapienza" University and Palestinian MOTA-DACH under the direction of Lorenzo Nigro and Hamdan Taha (www.lasapienzatojericho

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho

 

I was going to argue that if all the water in the world today is not flooding the world now, how could it have flooded the world then, but then I saw Margot2's quote.

Now I understand. We just need to change all scientific knowledge to fit it with what the Bible says, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

 

Pretty wacky , isn't it? Archeology brings reality to religion, but a few people need for the message to be embellished with supernatural fairy tales because the message of Jesus isn't enough for them.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_formation

Mountain formation refers to the geological processes that underlie the formation of mountains. These processes are associated with large-scale movements of the earth's crust (plate tectonics).[SUP][1][/SUP] Mountain formation is related to plate tectonics. Folding, faulting, volcanic activity, igneous intrusion and metamorphism are all parts of the orogenic process of mountain building.[SUP][2][/SUP] The understanding of specific landscape features in terms of the underlying tectonic processes is calledtectonic geomorphology, and the study of geologically young or ongoing processes is called neotectonics.[SUP][3]

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LOLOL.. Muntains are created by plate tectonics.. but NOT in the past 6,000 years.

Scientists have measured the Appalachian Mountains to be 300 to 500 million years old and the Himalayan mountains to be approximately 40 million years old.

 

How do you know? Were you there?