Republicans Discover That It Isn’t Easy Running Congress

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    has republicans voted on any of those items yet? or are they now holding up the votes

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    most people vote on the presidential elections, less people vote on the midterms, more people vote on midterms on the side that doesn't have a president in office

    not sure how I can make it anymore clear than that

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  2. FreshAir

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    that is true, that is why Bush only had 12, Obama has ten to go to pass Bush
     
  3. CJtheModerate

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    The Republicans took control of Congress on January 3rd. It's now February 2nd.
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    And yet already...
     

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    And so far....they've seen a failed coup attempt by the Far Right wackos against their own Leader...

    they can't figure out how to keep their promise to "defund Obama's immigration policies"....

    and their 20 week abortion ban bill got torpedoed by......REPUBLICAN woman.

    And no Democrats were required for any of that. :)
     
  6. FreshAir

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    I take that as a "No" then, they are still being held up by republicans?
     
  7. PatriotNews

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    Oh, it's so hard!

     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they already have the free VA, they do not need addl coverage
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    It's a jobs bill. It exempts the employers from the employee mandate if they hire veterans.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    And in 2002 it failed to happen, can't make it any clearer to you.
     
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    Yep they are so predictable. There they go again.
     
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    The 60s and 70s were a disastrous time, just as the 20s, 30s and 40s were, despite the boom that occurred before the bust. The saving grace came with Volker's appointment. Remember those 20% interest rates in the 80s? Good (*)(*)(*)(*)ing luck getting that again.
     
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    The answer to that would be to shrink the government and let people govern themselves again as they did before government had grown to its present size.

    But that has, indeed paradoxically, been rendered a virtual impossibility today.
     
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    I fully support a dysfunctional legislator as it compliments a dysfunctional President. The less gets done the better off we are. Hopefully states will stop sucking on the titties of government and start doing stuff for themselves again. This dependency on the Fed is precisely what led to the hurricane Katrina disaster.
     
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    I never said it always happened, in 2002 people were more worried about the war then politics as usual

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    so republicans did not want employers to have to provide the option for insurance to our veterans, not very Vet friendly is the right?

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    You mean Republicans discover it isn't that easy to missrun Congress like the last Congress.
     
  17. PatriotNews

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    It applies to veterans that already have care through the VA. Why do you think almost everyone voted for it?

    Face it, congress runs better under republicans.
     
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    Sometimes it happens sometimes is doesn't.
     
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    Now that we have exempted Veterans from Obamacare, next we can exempt single moms.

    Then the handicapped.

    Then minorities.

    Then women.

    Then college students.

    Then legal aliens.

    Then parents.

    Then left-handers.

    Then right-handers.

    Then people without hands.
     
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    It was already the law. I got my VA letter explaining I was exempt, (for tax purposes), last year. It was part of the ACA.
     
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    Really? I know Obamacare is complicated, but not that complicated. You are exempt from personal income tax fines for not having private insurance because you have the VA.

    This bill allows employers not to be penalized by the ACA if they hire veterans.
     
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    Incorrect. It simply allows employers to exempt from their count anyone that already has a Qualified Plan. The VA is a qualified plan. It was one of those oversights in the ACA that even the Democrats have been trying to fix since the ACA passage. It would led to multiple mandated coverage for some individuals. Now if they would be so kind, let's fix the Marriage Trap, another thing desperately needing attention.

    I'm still not sure the Republicans can hit their own ass with both hands, but I'm sick enough of Congressial Gridlock to be glad they are trying.
     
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    Wrong. It applies to veterans. Not anyone.

    There would be no gridlock if democrats gave into every republican demand. I guess that means gridlock is the democrats fault.
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Whereas it took Republicans all of 30 days before they were asking Obama "How's that hope and change?" in 2009
     
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    Go look up H.R. 22. An IRS directive to exempt any employee with coverage under DoD supervision as an employee for counting purposes for a large corporation.

    For English speakers, if you are all ready covered under a qualified plan, (veterns, reservists, dependents, survivors, etc.) then you won't be counted as employee number 50 for a small business that would otherwise turn them into a large business. Your personal status or eligibility hasn't changed a bit. Whether or not you have to be offered employee insurance hasn't changed. What you can claim in your taxes hasn't changed.

    The only thing that has changed is if you were holding off hiring a shipping clerk for the loading dock because it would have forced you to offer healthcare to your employees, you can now do so since Nancy down in the typing pool has a husband stationed on a ship in the Arabian Gulf.
     

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