Resistance to the death of Net Neutrality?

Jesus...

 

That is NOW!

What will it be AFTER the greedy ISP's start raising the rates for "high speed access"?

 

Greed is greed and since PF is a forum that exposes that greed shutting down that criticism makes perfect sense to ISP's.

 

It is already possible to do via Wifi nets. Many places overseas don't have cable so they use Wifi nets to cover large areas. The same thing can be accomplished with smaller Wifi systems chaining together. In essence Wifi can bypass broadband and with a couple of nonprofit broadband ISP startups access to the internet can continue.

Granted that won't help Facebook or Amazon but they are big enough to take on the ISP's when they lose customers. It is entirely possible that they could be champions of the resistance if they decide that NN is preferable. But that is still TBD.

As far as the resistance goes it looks like it already started.

https://www.wired.com/story/after-fcc-abandons-net-neutrality-states-take-up-the-fight/

 

Nice analysis!

I agree with what you are saying about the corporate motivation to recapture the revenue lost from cutting the TV cable.

While PF is small it is an influential voice that is monitored by political news media. The opinions expressed here are a tool that they use to measure the effectiveness of their own content at reaching their target markets.

In that respect there is value in silencing the criticism that is being leveled at corporations who are gouging the public both on the consumer end and as donors who control Congress. That alone makes PF a threat that corporations would prefer did not exist. It isn't government censorship to make "free speech" unaffordable on the internet since it is corporations doing the dirty work.

We already saw what happened with Citizens United so handing over control of free speech via the internet to corporations is unlikely to have an outcome that is beneficial to We the People IMO.

 

And if you can't afford those added fees?

 

Good analogy but personally I believe you are giving the ISP's far too much credit for good sense. My own experience in corporate America tells me that greed and profits always override common sense and public perception awareness until AFTER it bites them in the ass. There is a great deal of arrogance in boardrooms and competition amongst executives to be the one who increases profits the most. They will blow off anything that might stant in the way of raising the value of their share options.

Yes, you are probably right that the internet will rise up in protest when this happens but it is not the threat of that happening that will keep corporations from going after profits everywhere they can. The other analogy here could well be the greed based HMO's whose profit motivation ultimately gave rise to Obamacare and in all likelihood will result in Single Payer of some kind. As you pointed out ISP's like Comcast do have a monopoly in some areas and they will exploit that to the hilt because they have a track record of doing that already.

 

So the 3 biggest abusers, Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T, who caused so many complaints from customers for throttling bandwidth, such that the net neutrality legislation of 2015 was implemented to correct, are now promising us all that its in our best interest that the regulations be completely removed.

Somehow, I am extremely doubtful, I don't know what it is, maybe 40 years of observation, IDK, something, my gut.. personal experience, , something, reminding me of previous collusion,.. maybe it was something I read in Adam Smiths book Wealth of Nations...you know, Adam Smith the "Father of Capitalism"..that guy, Maybe he was just wrong. Corporations would never collude to control the market, would they?

 

Then you dont get them.

 

In other words people won't be able to afford to have internet access any longer.

Got it!

 

LOL, you haven’t noticed the continued increases under Obama’s NN?

 

How many websites have been throttled since 2015?

 

Simple internet access, like this site, wont really be affected. Its going to be youtube, netflix and youporn that really feel the bite.

Of course thats my opinion though.

I do wonder why you are showing such hostility towards me though.

 

If you can't afford the increased ISP fees that will mean you won't have access to PF or anything else for that matter.

What "hostility" do you imagine is being shown towards you?

 

How many were before 2015?

 

Thank you for confirming that NN works and should not be scrapped and the internet exploited by the greedy ISP corporations.

 

Translation - you have no clue so provide a non-answer

 

Ironic!

 

You are upset I cannot provide an unknown number?

 

Not in the least. I am amused that you cannot admit that your position has been exposed as groundless.

 

I dont see prices going up in general, at least not right away. I think they are going to be targeted at streaming services that compete with the ISPs streaming services. Gaming services like PlayStation Network, Xbox live, and Steam I see as othrt likely targets.

 

By you? Bwahahaha! You can’t even provide numbers.

 

It won't happen "right away" but it will happen. It happened to cable in just that way. Little by little choices were limited and costs increased and that's exactly what happened to cable. 10 years from now you won't recognize the internet and you'll be bitching about it like we do with cable but it won't matter. It will be too late.

By that point we'll be conditioned to accept it and younger people will have nothing to compare it to.