Revealed: Obama's CT Social Security # Traced To John Paul Ludwig (Lived CT-Died HI)

Didn't answer the question again Apuzzo-

70 million voters disagreed with you.
The Electoral College disagreed with you.
Congress disageed with you.
Chief Justice Roberts disagreed with you.
Justice Scalia disagrees with you.

I have posted quote after quote of both modern and historic sources which disagree with you.

What you have never addressed, and will not address, is that your 'interpretation' is at odds with the consensus interpretation of the population and both the legal and political establishment.

Explain exactly why you feel that the votes of 70 million American citizens, who voted for a candidate that is eligible per the consensus interpretation of the Constitution should be overturned?

 

I have answered that irrelevant question of yours on this thread and another one. Please go look it up.

 

no you haven't. you have never addressed why US law, every legal textbook, the electoral college, the ENTIRE congress, and the ENTIRE judiciary say your wrong. You need to answer this directly. either all of the above are in on the conspiracy, or your definition of NBC is wrong.

 

Dodging it again.

Well, if I was in your position, I would too.

There really isn't a viable defense for the absolute lack of support for your 'interpretation' of what Natural Born citizen is.

 

Apuzzo's position is that regardless of whether President Obama was born in the United States or not, that his father being Kenyan made him inelgibile.

70 million voters knew his father was Kenyan and voted that Apuzzo's interpretation is incorrect.
The Electoral College knew his father was Kenyan and voted that Apuzzo's interpretation is incorrect.
Congress knew his father was Kenyan and voted that Apuzzo's interpretation was incorrect.
And Chief Justice Roberts, when he swore President Obama in, turned to the camera's and said "Anyone born in the U.S. is a natural born citizen".

Apuzzo has yet to explain why his lone interpretation of the Constitution should overturn a Presidential election and over-ride the interpretation of the voters and Congress.

 

Is ALL the vital information contained in the COB on the COLB? No. Hawaii law requires access to ALL vital information. There is no law which prevents the release of all vital information. There is a policy the department uses for routine request of a birth certificate that does not trump the law nor your right to ALL your vital information.

End of story. He can release it. He should release it and end the controversy.

 

hawaii states flat out they will only issue a COLB. you've seen both the hawaii law, as well as the official govn't website confirming it. You can pretend you haven't all you want, but reality doesn't change because you stomp your feet about the long form.

 

As far as citizenship no one would have a leg to stand on, if he was born HERE that's it.

And it would drop to 1% and never again would liberals have to call him to correct it. The fact is he owes it to the American people to MAKE SURE there is no question about it.

43% have questions, you guys sure thought Bush should answer to the fringe over his military service which have no effect on his Presidency whatsoever so spare me the "he should not respond" bogus arguments. He should clear the matter up as Bush did by authorizing the release of all his vital information.

It would end the debate if it shows as it most probably does that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii.

As the three liberals on Matthews said, he should just release it and end it.

 

It does not and cite a policy for routine issuances of birth certificates, now where does the law prohibit releasing all vital information.

In fact tell me would you support such a law, that would deny you all your vital information?

Does the COLB contain all the vital information on the COB? Hawaii law requires access to ALL vital information. You've seen the LAW which requires ALL vital information be made available. How is the information on the COB made available?

Looking desperate now.

Yes or no does the COLB contain ALL the information on the COB?

 

All you have to do is call out there to the Hawaii Dept of Health and they will tell you that you can get a copy of your original COB. You just have to write a letter to the registrar explaining a good reason why you need it and the registrar will make a decision to give you a copy. It's that simple.

 

can you prove that? because i can prove that hawaii only issues COLB's when a request is made for a birth certificate.

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

this is what actual evidence looks like apuzzo. what I have just quoted for you is hawaii stating flat out they will only issue a COLB. this is the official govn't website for the state of hawaii.

what do you have besides wishful thinking?

 

The LAW states they have to give any vital information on record at the request of a person with a tangible interest.

Just can't get around that and no the COLB does NOT list ALL the vital information.

 

You have to understand Bluesguy, rahl and SFJeff has been given a script for specific responses to allegations we bring up. Notice he doesn't deviate to his own opinions on anything. I've discovered SFJeff on other websites (Blogs, etc) doing the same thing to counter the facts about Obamas ineligibility. It's the same scripted answer over and over and over.

 

I have already irrefutably proven you wrong. hawaii only issues COLB's.

 

nope, I've already irrefutably proven you wrong.

 

lol, no it's not a script, it's reality. I have provided the hawaii statute, as well as the official govn't website for the state of hawaii saying flat out they only issue COLB's. I have never once tried to pass off a blog as evidence, unlike you birthers.

 

Does the COB contain information not found on the COLB? Yes.
Does the law require Hawaii to provide ALL vital information on file to a person with tangible interest. Yes.

End of story.

 

Your specious declarations not withstanding

The LAW states they have to give any vital information on record at the request of a person with a tangible interest.

Just can't get around that and no the COLB does NOT list ALL the vital information.

 

You have one specious statement. You claim Hawaii can withhold your vital information, they can't.

You can't get around Hawaii law that requires ALL vital information be provided to a person with a tangible interest.

 

already irrefutably proven you wrong.........http://www.politicalforum.com/other...l-ludwig-lived-ct-died-hi-14.html#post3619378

 

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