RNC contractor exposed millions of voter data

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Was there an intent to expose it?
     
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    If your PII was compromised by their negligence, you as an individual, or a class may represent your claim. Ask Target, or Nordstroms, or BCBS, or any other org that has been compromised.
     
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    I believe those all involved credit card personal information. I haven't seen where such protected information is involved here only public domain information but will stand to be corrected.
     
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    Perhaps then, you don't understand what PII data was compromised. These would include but are not limited to the following: Name, address, phone number, email address, social security number, tax payer ID, naturalization control number, etc. Given that the exposure has been alleged to contain all of the above, the PII laws would kick in. The company would be responsible for their negligence and harm to citizens.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    Where were the SS numbers and where did the contractor get those along with tax payer ID#'s?
     
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    Apparently, it was negligence that exposed it. Of course, that could just be an excuse and the data was left unprotected on purpose, so someone could mine the data. Who knows? The data was left exposed for 12 days.

    It included:
     
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  7. mdrobster

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    fyi, a tax payer id# can be their ssn#

    where and how this info came about, and as to how it was placed unsecure on the site is what the investigation will be all about
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    But no intent so you can't charge him with any crime.
     
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    From the article "The files do not appear to include Social Security or credit card information, "

    Nor does it say federal taxpayer ID numbers were in the files.

    And yes I know what are tax ID numbers and that for the vast majority of filers their SS number acts as the tax ID numbers but there are those cases as when I probated my mothers estate and had to file those forms a separate tax ID number is needed so as to not mingle that with my personal taxes thus what is called a Federal Tax Id. You can have both and they be separate numbers. The claim here was that that information was in the exposed that information thus some kind of breach of the law. It appears not.
     
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    The Washington Post news service, good grief can you get anymore petty for lack of an intellectual response?
     
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    wrong, exposing personal info is a crime, period
     
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    so clicking on a link is too tough for you.
     
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    Maybe not, but is that really your biggest concern when every single state's voter registration material was left vulnerable to hackers, that he can't be charged with a crime?

    Russia, or any other entity, would have trouble getting into every single state's voter information individually, but since the RNC had it all compiled into one nice, neat data base, they can have it all without going to the trouble to hack each state, thanks to this incompetence. It certainly doesn't inspire confidence for the future.
     
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    When people so easily dismiss things like this and make partizan arguments, it makes you wonder why? It a breach of the confidence /privacy of the people.
     
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    Cite the law that was violated here. Voter roll information is public information.
     
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    Its a subscriber news service although I was able to trick it into letting me read the article without subscribing.

    Feeling petty today or something.
     
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    Its public information. He nor the company had any intention forbit to be exposed. You can't show where a foriegn government got the information. So no harm no foul correct?
     
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    enough with your circular argument. in the previous post you state personal info doesnt have to be secured and here you go back to voter rolls.

    grow the eff up!!!!!!
     
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    Are you kidding?
     
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    Nailed it!
    Sadly, I doubt that's the simple answer.

    The people must be able to have confidence in the sanctity of this type of info.
     
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    OK so all you can do is dodge now that you are stuck.
     
  22. Bluesguy

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    Not at all thats the new standard is it not? If you had no intent to expose sensitive information and no foriegn governme t got it away no harm mk foul or dows that only apply to Clinton?
     
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    There was a foul. The information was left unprotected for 12 days. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but it does to me. This time it was just meticulously compiled public data. Next time it may be something much more vulnerable.
     
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    that personal info is legally the same as medical, known as hippa
     
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    You recognise your MO? You might not........
     
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