Romney apologizes after report of bullying as a teen

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  1. Shangrila

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    Please respectfully try to stay on topic, not each other.

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    Most boarding schools and prep schools would have kicked Romney out.. He must have been a real privileged character.
     
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    And is not 65 and is 47 years of a stellar life later.

    Where were the charges? And even if true which is doubtful now where is that pattern of such behavior.


    Nope sorry, their main witness, whom they said fretted about it for years and years, now admits he only recent heared of the alleged incident and wasn't even there as the story claimed.

    Even if true he had no idea if the guy liked homosexual sex, but then the story is falling apart even the family saying it has no credibility.

    But when you can't defend Obama's record just keep coming up with these silly allegations.

    Hey Obama admitted he bullied a girl, let's kick him out of office. He admitted to rampant drug use and that he hardly tried in school, not the stuff for a President, let's kick him out of office.





    One six year old pushing another is not "abuse" but a seventeen year old forming a gang for the purpose of committing a battery on a younger kid is abuse and is a crime.





    Why? so I can be a "conservative", like you?

    Sorry. My dog rides inside the car and I'm the guy who steps between you and your victims.[/QUOTE]
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    You once again make no sense. I guess when all you have are bogus emotional appeals it's tough to do so.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    No I am arguing with someone desperate to find something, anything to divert from the real issues. So did you guys also fall for the Dan Rather phony memo's too?
     
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    Or as it appears the story is phony or overhyped to say the least.
     
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    What is there to defend, the start witness now says he wasn't even there and never heard about it until recently.
     
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    Bluesguy, what you are conveniently ignoring is that Romney has issued a generic apology while claiming no memory of this. This is not something anyone with a functioning brain would forget. If he didn't do it, he would remember that, too and no apology would have been issued. He would have flatly denied it and challenged his accusers to put up or shut up.

    As for the reporting on the story, we have one sister, who was at college, saying she had no knowledge of the incident. Another sister has said the portrayal of her brother is factually false. Neither one of these statements exonerates Mitt Romney. Regardless of the Post's being misleading about the witness, Romney's apology and the family's lack of denying that the incident happened stick out like a sore thumb.

    If you have seen something where the family actually denies that the incident happened, show the pertinent comment with a link. What I've seen is stuff like 'the Post's story is falling apart' from Fox in reference to the witness, but nothing that actually gets to the meat of the issue.
     
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    Why didn't Romney flat out deny it then. The only reason he would apologize would be because it did happen.
     
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    What's the real issue really? As the incumbent, anything that happened during Obama's watch will be blamed on him. That's natural. but what of his opponent? He will be attacked on his character and his policies. So far he has failed to make a case for himself on either. Yes he's a great businessman but is he really just a businessman. It takes more than an astute businessman to be President. Ask Trump or Cain.

    And let's not forget, negative campaigning on anything but the issues is Romney's forte. The GOP have been for the last 4 years attacking Obama on his birth certificate, his school records, his father being a Muslim and anything or everything they can think of. But God forbid someone use the same tactic on them.
     
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    Romney also has used his overwhelming advantage in cash to bludgeon his GOP opponents in the primaries with TV sound bite hit pieces full of lies and distortions...... (ask Newt and Santorum) If someone accused me of what Mitt was accused of, I'd flatly deny it...unless I did it and knew they had the goods on me....He should have admitted it instead of trying to oooze his way out of it by saying he didn't remember....What a tangled web our little Mitt has woven...I think it's funny as hell that a one time gutless little rich prick gets smacked down 50 years later for a rotten cowardly act he thought he got away with and no doubt laughed heartily about at the time....Ahhhh...poetic justice for our little Mittens Fauntleroy. Good stuff, I say!!



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  12. Ronald0

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    Exactly. They can throw all the dirt but they whine if someone tosses it back. Glass houses indeed.

    I am betting if Romney was accused of murder the Romney sheep would turn right round and say so what. Obama stomped on an ant when he was 6. Obama is such a hypocrite.

    Interesting fact. There is actually a breed of sheep called Romney sheep mostly found in UK and New Zealand.

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    What you are ignoring is the the named witness has recanted, he witnessed nothing and doesn't recall such an incident. There is no evidence of Romney having a history of any such behavior and TONS of evidence showing what a fine young man he was.

    47 years ago.......in highs school.................your guys are desperate aren't you.


    POLL: ROMNEY 50% OBAMA 42%...

    I can see why you are engaged in such petty nonsense, you certainly can't point to Obama's record.
     
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    The economy, jobs and the growth of government.
     
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    Repeating my question. Why didn't Romney deny it then. If someone ever accused me of having done something like that, I did clearly tell them that nothing like that ever occurred. Not, I don't remember, there were so many incidents like that its so hard to keep track of.
     
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    Really? I recall Romney attacking his GOP rivals on a lot of other issues than the economy. Sounds like double standards to me.
     
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    Wow....you really know how to snip a post so it makes no sense.

    You're still refusing to address the obvious and that's why Romney apologized.

    Who cares about Obama? I support Ron Paul.
     
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    He said he had no recollection of it but if he did ANYTHING in high school the offended ANYONE he apologized.....................end of story.

    I was in a fraternity in high school, we had hazing like you wouldn't believe. Do I remember everything I did to every rat? No.

    So what does it have to do with anything anyway? 47 years ago and we know that he is a stellar human being by all the kind deeds and sacrifices he has made to help other people. This supposed incident trumps all that for you?
     
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    I'm not Romney and I can't read his mind and neither can you.

    So what is this even an issue at all?

    Why are you ignoring that the only named witnesses now states the WP story completely misrepresented what he said, that he'd never even heard of the story until recently. A small school and he didn't know about it. As I said Fox said this morning that the former pupils they contact had never heard of it either.
     
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    Like what? But OK let's make Obama's admittance that he barely attended high school and was very involved in drugs, surely we can't allow a druggie to remain in office.
     
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    Did you frequently participate in incidents like the Romney one? Given the strict standards of the particular school, pranks like that did not happen often and were grounds for being expelled. If it happened, a normal person would have remembered or even if he had forgotten, would have jogged his memory when the incident was talked about. Not every one is a Romney sheep and given his history of lying about everything, excuse us if we don't buy into his lies again.
     
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    Oh gee. Next you will say the primary never happened and no one talked about social issues at all or about Newt's marriage or birth control or any of a dozen other things. Let's not forget the birthers or Obama being a Muslim or a dozen other related attacks.

    That's the difference. Obama admitted it himself and didn't lie about it when asked. Then he went on to graduate from Harvard with a magma cum laud. And we have proof without a doubt that he does not do drugs any more.

    I have already said I don't really have a problem with the Romney incident but how he choses to lie about it and laugh it off. He may be a loyal friend but he has repeatedly shown to be a snob and without any compassion or empathy for the less wealthy. He simply can not relate with them and the handling of this incident merely reinforces that image. Also, the Romney campaign in the primaries was no more than smear campaigning representing a bullying nature.
     
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    The alleged incident? We did all kinds of things from simply having them do exercises to throwing raw eggs and cracked corn on the backs, to drinking cococtions made up of everything in the pantry the more horrible the better. During initiation I got over twenty licks with paddles. We all to bring frogs for "frog races" if yours lost you were blindfolded and had to eat your frog, of course they substituted chicken gizzards but the goals was to get the guy to puke. The girl sororities didn't get into the physical they did more mental stuff to the their pledges.

    The REAL question here is why did the WP put this not very accurate story on the frontpage? An alleged one incident and nothing to indicate ANYTHING of a pattern or subsequent such acts. A 5000 word article on this? Again what about Obama and his bullying? Some say that well he was only six but we are constantly told these days that bullying begins at such early ages and it must be dealt with because it leads to even worse behavior later.

    The bottom line in both is neither showed or shows a pattern of such behavior.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald0 View Post
    Really? I recall Romney attacking his GOP rivals on a lot of other issues than the economy. Sounds like double standards to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    Like what? But OK let's make Obama's admittance that he barely attended high school and was very involved in drugs, surely we can't allow a druggie to remain in office.

    Shifting the subject now I see. Try again............ROMNEY.

    Moot point, should the both be judged as adults for such behavior when they still in school?


    But never admitted how he got into Harvard or college at all. And we have no proof at all that Romney engages in hazing or such alleged pranks anymore.

    Which is the point, why did the WP even print the story, did they give any indication or evidence that it went beyond this one alleged incident? No. Anymore than Obama's bullying went beyond the one incident we actually know happened.

    And more baseless allegations.

    Showing you REALLY know nothing about the man and his history.
     
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    Romney insists that he didn't even know what a "queer" was at that time...In other words he was simply bullying the kid because he wore his hair differently and was weak, making him an easy, safe target.
     

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