Roots 2016 Did We Need Another, Roots?

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Hollywood is dying. Unfortunately, it's taking a long time.

 

and the Republicans want to keep all blacks in prison.

 

I'm waiting for one where they confuse Malcolm X with Cassius Clay.

 

IMO it works more like, remember history and then repeat it.

IMO negative memes should not be re-energized.

 

Has anyone seen

Root 2016 ?

 

When "we" don't offer anything but reminders, then "we" are still not getting the black vote.

 

I'll be honest. I think it's a waste of time. The Democrats control the media so the past is whatever they say it is. And because of that, Kempism is a total failure. To give a more recent example, our current President, when running in 2008, opposed gay marriage and opposed it explicitly on religious grounds. Flash forward and the White House is bathed in rainbow colors and no one remembers that any Democrats ever opposed gay marriage.

And they sure don't remember way back in the 2004 election where the only candidate on the top ticket who supported gay marriage was...Dick Cheney.

Case in point. Clinton's crime bill against "superpredators" is now a Republican racism problem.

 

Excellent point Sharpie, and you beat me to jumping on what Herk views as history and slavery.

I think that some people, who believe in their "collective consciousness", when it comes to black slavery, should engulf all the facts about slavery.

As you and I know, slavery didn't begin with Old Europe and the Africans. Yes, that's all that Progressives seem to point out in their history.

Your post alone, showing the Muslims domination of slavery around the world for hundreds upon hundreds of years, you would think might knock some sense into their Liberal noggins.

Now I'm going to believe that maybe some of them actually are smart enough to know that slavery had been around since ancient recorded history. (And it didn't start with Africans)

From the earliest periods of recorded history, slavery was found in the world's most "advanced" regions. The earliest civilizations--along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Mesopotamia, the Nile in Egypt, the Indus Valley of India, and China's Yangtze River Valley--had slavery. The earliest known system of laws, the Hammurabi Code, recognized slavery. But the percentage of slaves in these early civilizations was small, in part because male war captives were typically killed, while women were enslaved as field laborers or concubines.
Only a handful of societies made slavery the dominant labor force. The first true slave society in history emerged in ancient Greece between the 6th and 4th centuries. In Athens during the classical period, a third to a half of the population consisted of slaves. Rome would become even more dependent on slavery. It is not an accident that our modern ideas of freedom and democracy emerged in a slave society. Most early societies lacked a word for freedom; but large-scale slavery in classical Greece and Rome made these people more aware of the distinctive nature of freedom. Slavery never disappeared from medieval Europe. While slavery declined in northwestern Europe, it persisted in Sicily, southern Italy, Russia, southern France, Spain, and North Africa. Most of these slaves were "white," coming from areas in Eastern Europe or near the Black Sea.

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3027

 

Indeed Ronnie!
There is never a reason to condone the idea that one person owns another. But it can be mitigated by the fact that it took people to build a temple, or a palace. Wars were waged for the purposes of collecting people to be enslaved by the conquerors for building their roads and their nations. It also helps to remember that all people were candidates for slavery - they only had to be captured first. The old Testament is a long story of how the Hebrew people were continually enslaved by the next conquering army to come through, while the rich Canaanites bought their freedom through tributes to the conquerors. Europeans were enslaved; Christians were enslaved; no one was exempt except the rich and powerful.

I have an ancestor that escaped indentured service in the 1700's - another form of slavery where servants were considered personal property, and they or their descendants could be sold or inherited. Her mother was kidnapped out of Scotland and forced into servitude. The "rules" were that the servitude only lasted until the debt for the crossing was repaid, but when one was kidnapped and then victimized by crooked bookkeeping, their "servitude" never ended and their "debt" was carried over to their offspring. My ancestral grandmother ran off into the frontier. However, indentured servants were also sent to the Caribbean and even to the coast of Africa. And don't forget about the slaves brought in from India and China.

Here's the thing about historical trauma: if something is bad we should, all together, consider it universally bad. Thus, the blacks were not the only ones victimized by slavery -- the Jews were not the only holocaust victims. Slavery and genocide goes on today -- right this moment. Where's the outcry against that conduct from the people living their safe lives here in the USA?

Why isn't Black Lives Matter getting up in the faces of Boko Haram? Maybe it doesn't matter to them that much.

 

Apparently not...still waiting on part 4 to record this Saturday then I will binge watch.

 

I don't know, Hollywood tends to do well with its movies when there is a popular book that went to the theaters or a prescript from the comics, aka Avengers, Batman, etc.

That being said, most of the holocaust films in the last decade have been foreign films from Europe. There have been some pure Hollywood productions, but mostly unknown to the audience.

 

How did a question about Roots get sidetracked into a demagogic political screed? Some people have to insert their radical political beliefs into the most innocent conversations. Can't we even have a conversation about culture without having extremist politics rammed down our throats?

More on topic, I was fascinated by the original Roots. I don't think the early chapters could be shown on TV today due to the bare-breasted women. As society in general has become more tolerant, TV has become more conservative and intolerant (as strange as it may seem to some, those two words are synonyms).

It's difficult for me to believe that the new Roots could be as good as the original, but if I get a chance, I'll watch it and see if I'm right.

 

You have a point, although in my defense I didn't do the original sidetracking, however I allowed myself to be taken by the current,

Anyway this was posted in the Political Opinion & Beliefs section, not the one for entertainment.

 

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You err in assuming this thread is not entertaining.