Russia and the UK

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in history there are many examples of other countries to interfere in the internal affairs of independent countries. For example, Libya. Next country of Iran, and then Belarus. But if Iran's oil, why do we Belarus? Belarus is no oil. I found a video of what is happening in Belarus and Europe now. We are funding the opposition of those countries that we do not need, we say there violated human rights, and what is happening with us? Here is the video [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnYKLoBLC5I"]Integration into the European Union! - YouTube[/ame]

 

I like the Russia Today news service.

It seems a lot more trustworthy than the BBC these days. Crazy innit?

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They say RT journalists have been arrested in the USA I don't remember what for!

 

And did that include tory/liberal/tory Churchill who insisted there would be no second front?

 

He'd have been perfectly happy with Mussolini and Franco, but was in a minority about the Fuhrer!

 

Tamora wrote
I like the Russia Today news service.
It seems a lot more trustworthy than the BBC these days. Crazy innit?


We have RT TV which I watch occasionally and in times past I have watched frequently .
It is steeped in propaganda which is hardly surprising as it makes no policy decisions without FSB clearance .
It is excellent in some respects but for most of the International reporting it is remarkably out of line with the BBC and Al Jazeera and even the better American news station .
Make your own mind up , but sometimes their reporting is so absurd that I laugh out loud and just shake my head .
Even the Moscow Times is more accurate , let alone Novaya Gazeta .

 

You're saying without FSB clearance?
Sometimes this clearance is more accurate and close to the true events than so called "free" CNN and BBC which lost all their authority after not seeing Saakashvili began the war against Ossetians.

Its very hard today to find clobal channels more false and full of propaganda than CNN and BBC. We remember how both the channels bathed in created with their hands information about hostilities in Checnia and we see now how carefully both the channels avoid covering hostilities in Afganistan. Iraq and Libya.

Another vivid example of such clearance free CNN and BBC channels is their stubborn silencing the Occupy Wall Street hostilities.
Only RT and Al-Jazeera covered those events right from the scratch!

 

Utter drivel my good friend .
I informed anybody interested to listen on July 19 the 2008 that Russia would sweep into South Ossetia on August 10th .They did while Vlad sat in in Bejing -- how convenient
They actually went in three days earlier but fortunately the Moscow Military ran leaks like a sieve so everybody of consequence was prepared .
For nearly 48 hours the Georgians gave the Russians a good hiding and Russia only got moving and winning when they paralysed Georgian Government and Military with an enormous Cyber attack .
Most Russians are like you and still believe the well prepared PR reports that bombarded the globe but you have only to read detailed reports from Russian soldiers at the Roki Pass to know exactly what happened and when .
Another reason the Russians appeared to have been pre-empted when push came to shove , was that most of the Russian tanks would not even fire up . The military stupidly allocated most of the invasion to conscripts and used the worst of their tanks ( admitted by General Makarov later).For many hours there was complete chaos in the Roki pass which , from memory , is only about 4 metres wide -- stricken tanks all over the place
Things did not swing toward Russia until the Chechyan mercenaries were brought in . Putin ordered Kadyrov to send them in and they had no alternative , having had no pay for about 6 months .
My dear friend . If only you know what really went on and during the provocation period beforehand . That invasion actually proves the complete opposite of what you so happily believe .
The tragedy is that later the EU was too cowardly to stand up to Putin because of other matters like Gas supply and which way Ukraine might move ( judged critical then ).

 

I have made up my own mind. Shows you what I think of the BBC.

 

To Raymondo


I informed anybody interested to listen on July 19 the 2008 that Russia would sweep into South Ossetia on August 10th .They did while Vlad sat in in Bejing -- how convenient

BS.

Georgians were the first to attack Ossetians. "Fair players" like CNNand BBC said the samr rotten (*)(*)(*)(*) that you're repeating now!


Most Russians are like you and still believe the well prepared PR reports that bombarded the globe but you have only to read detailed reports from Russian soldiers at the Roki Pass to know exactly what happened and when .

BS.

This is people like you believe in CNN and BBC PR reports!
We saw Russian soldiers finishing Georgian Army! What you know about Russians you victim of CNN?


Things did not swing toward Russia until the Chechyan mercenaries were brought in . Putin ordered Kadyrov to send them in and they had no alternative , having had no pay for about 6 months .

BS
There are not Chechen mercenaries in the Russian Army. There is a regular military unit.

My dear friend . If only you know what really went on and during the provocation period beforehand . That invasion actually proves the complete opposite of what you so happily believe .

BS.

You are not my friend!
Any way it went a small number of Russian forces licked the ass of the NATO trained army!

 

CNN or BBC don't have any authority after they overslept the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia.

CNN or BBC lost their faces when they lied about Jugoslavia hostilities, shrieked about civil population sufferings in Afganistan and Chechnia and kept silence about the same sufferings in the same Afganistan, Iraq, Libya.

It shows an easealy traced fact that either CNN or BBC are not more a fair information provider but a club in the hands of a bunch politicians and tycoons.

I won't wonder if comes to surface a fact of close relations between US and British secret services relations with CNN and BBC!


By the way how about main us media 'Occupy Wall Street' campaign silencing?


People spoke about it in Internet but not TVs.
Only RT and Al Jazeera covered events!

Why US media which is always keen to talk about any stirrings in Russia kept silence for 3 weeks?

It's natural that if somebody wanted to see some event from all the points he watched RT at that time.

This is natural the RT people noticed an increase of interest to their channel among English speaking audience!


CNN and the like monopoly has finished.
This is the fact that sends shivers through your spine!


Americans were born and bread like free people in free wild ranges and persons like you make think there's something wrong today in the USA with the freedom they so long nourished!

 

This phrase point out my idea that you have neither facts nor arguments!

How about 'fair' CNN, BBC?

Somr people complain abut Fox channel as well.

Another example of lie!

RT provet to be excellent providing information to English speaking society contrary to the in bred Mass media!

 

Rex
You do jump the gun .
I would not be seen dead watching CNN or Fox ( the equivalent of Pravda) . These are American outlets and in truth nobody cares what the Hilly Billies , Yanks , Rednecks and KKK brigades are fed .Literally or Media wise .They only thrive on simplicity and Black and White .
They are much more happy with The Simsons and stuffing their faces .
The only mass media TV sources I ever look at are BBC and Al Jazeera ( many senior BBC people have moved there for better money and better weather ! The online English summary is brilliant and better , I fear , than equivalent BBC ) .
Newspaper sources are The Telegraph and Guardian plus The Times occasionally . Other British papers are not meant to be taken seriously and are there to feed the masses with trivial rubbish -- now standard practise the world over .
My main sources are Inter Net plus personal from people on the ground .For the Caucasus I use Kavkaz Center which is banned in Russia and touted as a Terrorist and Extremist site for Muslim nutters .
In fact it is remarkably accurate and because it chronicles a Civil War which Russia does not publicly admit to , and one which they are badly losing , they hate KC .KC have made the FSB special forces look an imbecilic bunch who rank as one of the most inhuman Terrorist groups in the world .
As for RT in English , we must disagree . When they are showing Polar Bears and the Dwarf playing Ice Hockey they are bearable but politically they are as savvy and sophisticated as Sergei Lavrov -- the Lavatory as I call him .

 

This is true...

The entire Western media as far as I'm concerned...

 

You cited the most stupid example someone could ever cite!
Kavkaz Center is a typical subversive organization of the side that lost the war!

And as any subversive activities unit it's organised. earmarked and managed bu the direct enemys of Russia.

This is like waiting for fair information about Russia from Saakashvili mass media.

Had such unit performed subversive activities against the USA the Americans would have crushed down in a few month! And any European government would have regretted it had had something to do with them!


This is so evedient that nobody even pays attention to this resourse except maybe for naive persons or fat trolls like you!

 

In fact this is not only remarcablu accurate it's patently remarkable fot its inaccuracy because its chronicles of the Civil War which they have lost,are losing wil be lossing every now and then! This is why the hate and will hate FSB which is the most accurate and effective service in the world!

Standin at this poinst we understand that its RT which is by the way gaining success not only among English speaking environment is a way ahead today then CNN and BBC!

 

Yeah!

I forgot to add that RT has proved so successful that its going to broadcast in Spanish!

A good move... eh... 600 000 000 listeners.

This is normal!


People must have independent and fair source of information but only that one that has been staged by the US and British military and political Customers!

I was asking you about CNN and BBC relationships with secret services in close cooperation on staging false demonstrations, false evidences, untrue events in the countries you don'like, silencing real atrocities your armies commit during the wars, and completely losing military and social positions?

 

Absolutely right .
How do you think such a small island as ours manages to remain such a large contributor on a global basis?
The first thing we learned to do ( Maggie and Reagan)was to become the School bully's best " friend" and play on the so called special relationship set up in World War 2.
Like all "hangers-on" , we have become brilliant diplomats and we are cunning, resourceful and ruthless when pushed too hard .
Privately we think Americans are simple souls that limit themselves by having a very undeveloped sense of humour and who need to travel more ( Disney excluded) .
Over the next decade our allegiances will change enormously as the US stagnates . I personally would like India and South America ( less Argentina perhaps) to become our "best" friends , though we will still hold evening adult education classes for Russians and Chinese .

 

No its not useless!

He does a big favour to Russia and to Mr. Putin!

Suffice it to translate what a (*)(*)(*)(*) he's talking about Putin and Russian Federation to make Russian voters to run electing Putin!

 

Neither Russians nor Americans have never until now tried to push you hard!
You are saying you are ruthless!

You are american slaves!

I am not a big US lover but that nation may be held in esteem for their long for liberty and broad souls contrary to your historical hypocritical narrow and anti human development!


You dude keep saying Russia is hated?
Sure!
Strong nations are always hated either russians or americans or ancient romans!

We'll see the love I expect to arise between people like you and Scotts, Irish nations let alone the Welsh nation!

I am sure the give credence to your English ruthlessness!

 

I am pretty sure they have all disrespect. That small (*)(*)(*)(*)hole England have been failing to conquer those freedom-loving nations for centuries, despite having quantity and technical superiority. Those horde of Englishmen was well-known for it's extremely low inferior cultural level those days, they always prefer destruction to cooperation, they commit numerous genocides on that Islands and outside them. But, finally, they are under control of their own former colony, also known as USA, so Americans now holding those barbarians in stall so they can't kill people by millions anymore.

 

I have no a habit to tar someone.

However British special services are so notorious for thei covert activities that we dont' even have to calcolate percentage!

 

Since so many members on this thread have decided to simply ignore the forum rules, I am simply closing it.