Russia can now shoot down all but 200 US warplanes

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  1. freddy62

    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would not be the first time in history the certain defeate Russia became common wisdom.
     
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    Just as a note - if America stops attacking Russia, perhaps it won't matter.
     
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    Ah, yes, very good.

    Except that:
    -it was a sattelite, which was travelling by well-known and completely predictable orbit, unlike ICBMs, which can travel by many trajectories and even manuver in flight;
    -it was destroyed at 153 miles altitude, meanwhile ICBMs' flight height peak might reach ~1000 km or so:

    -operational versions of SM-3 are not able to shot down ICBMs, there might be some kind of capability after SM-3IIA will prove it's effectiveness;

    -the worst part is that the radars, deployed on Aegis-equipped ships, you are not going to shot down targets with this shy detection range of 165 nm.



    Right, Space Marines are the GAME CHANGER!!11 Unluckly there are none operational at the moment.
     
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    Actually, the US would not even get involved then. Russia could pretty much invade and annex all of the Ukraine, and there is not really a damned thing the US could do about it.

    The Ukraine is not a member of NATO, nor do the two countries have any kind of mutual support or mutual defense treaty.

    The only way for the US to get involved short of the Ukraine finally deciding to NATO is if the UNSC decides to sent in peacekeeping forces. And guess what the odds are that are. One starts with "S", the other with "N".
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    No....the Ukraine was once a part of the Soviet Union and any invasion or even what is going on right now will be countered ECONOMICALLY by the United States.

    The United States does not need to use the Military Option to apply unbearable pressure to many countries including Russia.

    Right now Putin is finding this out the hard way.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not NATO but there was talk of giving Ukraine some sort of special status where the US would have military obligations in the event of war.
     
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    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is true that Russia is currently paying an economic price for defying the US & so is Europe for cooperating with the US but both the Europeans & Russia will adopt to the new realities & eventually prosper again although it's hard to say if the European union will survive in it's current form.
     
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    I'm constantly puzzled by all this stuff about Russia, as if it's still some sort of major power and influence. It isn't, and hasn't been since the Brezhnev Doctrine was crushed decisively and for good in 1973 by the U.S. and SEATO in Viet Nam. It's been a cripple and a de facto western dependency ever since, despite it's silly posturing to the contrary. McCain was right when he said Russia was a gas station pretending to be a super power. The best it can do now is shake down tiny defenseless states on its borders, and only because those are too minor and unimportant at the moment relative to other issues going on. It isn't going to rise like some phoenix again, no matter what BS Putin feeds his tabloids or how creative the conspiratards in the policy rags are in dreaming up these dumbass scenarios every month or so, or every time Putin waggles his lil plastic sword around. The only real pastime re Russia is amusing oneself over speculating on when either Putin takes one in the head from his own gang of oligarchs, or he puts one in their heads first. It's pretty much going to end up as Somalia with white people.
     
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    That would require some kind of Mutual Assistance or Mutual Defense Treaty.

    At this time, there is none of those. No treaty, no alliance, no help.
     
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    Europe will be fine...the E.U....not so much.

    After the complete debacle Putin has created....you will not see European Investment on any large scale until a new Russian Leader is in power and that leader might be in power sooner than most people and Putin think.

    AboveAlpha....p.s...A DICTATOR...ie...Putin...should never bite the hands that feed him. Putin is loosing Billions for those who helped put him in power and keep him in power...they will only loose so much money before they replace him.
     

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