Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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    Maybe it is the white flag of surrender...;-)
     
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    It suggests Ukrainian forces are operating with unusual freedom in Russian rear areas.
     
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    President Joe Biden hailed American military deployments to Europe as part of a struggle for democracy against autocracy during a visit to US troops in Poland.
    His remarks come as the US and others have reinforced Nato's eastern flank amid the war in Ukraine.
    The stop at an airbase in Rzeszow, near the Ukrainian border, was part of Mr Biden's trip to Europe to rally allies.
    However, back home Mr Biden faces scepticism over his Ukraine response.
    In his remarks to the troops on Friday, the president sought to portray their deployments as part of a wider "fight between democracies and oligarchs".
    "You are the finest fighting force in the history of the world," he said. "What you're doing is consequential."
    "What's at stake is what your kids and grandkids are going to look like in terms of their freedom," he said. "What you're engaging in is much more than whether or not you can alleviate the pain and suffering of the people of Ukraine".
    "What's at stake is what your kids and grandkids are going to look like in terms of their freedom," he said. "What you're engaging in is much more than whether or not you can alleviate the pain and suffering of the people of Ukraine".

    Biden shared a pizza with the troops and Biden is very popular with the U.S. Troops. He also took a selfie with the troops while he was there. It was a real good thing that happened that day.
     
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    Biden declared to today that your little psychopath putin has to go.

    It is hard to imagine how far russia has fallen - now nothing but a third rate military with a nut running the place.
     
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    You are indeed the queen of bad poetry attempts. My hat is off to someone who can shovel as much s**t as you and apparently not mind the smell. Your 'art' is very bad. Rhymes do not make poetry, and signing your name to it only makes the attempt more laughable; no one is going to steal or quote this garbage.
    But hey, Jean genie,
    Keep saving your dead hair
    For making up underwear
    Poor little greenie
     
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    I seem to be doing better than your fearless leader at predicting outcomes, so I think my opinion carries a bit more weight than your party line.
     
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    Biden said out loud......what a lot of the planet is thinking........or saying privately.
     
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    But from trump, not a word. He has never said one bad word about his good buddy putin.
     
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    I'm talking about this. Ukraine had weapons of the USSR type. It's left outdated. Since 2014, Ukraine has been training and re-equipping according to NATO standards, with NATO instructors, with NATO weapons. Several thousand of the same Javelins, whose supplies they boasted of and considered to be destructive weapons, were American.
    If you are fired from work, your bank account is taken away, your housing is taken away - these are elements of economic warfare. In Answer, you can take a rifle or ride a Killdozer. ;-)
    Do not believe in such "radio intercepts". The simplest thing is to record several voices and name the file "Radio Intercept". Compared to real conversations on the battlefield, they speak differently and in other words... even if we assume that Ukraine can hack into military radio frequencies.
    for example:


    do not use swear words. Do not ask to repeat the phrase slowly and clearly, especially if you hear so well. They only speak to the point. Household chatter on the air - this is for Ukrainian propaganda videos only.
    when your neighbor promises to come and shoot your family. Are you going to wait for him to buy weapons?
    Russia is a sovereign state and has the right to decide whose independence to recognize. The separatists were the rebels of Ukraine. There was a civil war for 8 years. And all this time, Russia tried to help diplomatically (help, not solve - because Russia is not a party to the conflict). When Russia became a party to the conflict -
    Russia began to solve the problem by cardinal and effective methods.
    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1051375
    SIMFEROPOL, March 17. /ITAR-TASS/. The referendum in Crimea was in line with international standards and fully met democratic procedures. This was stated to ITAR-TASS by the head of the mission of international observers Mateusz Piskorski (Poland).
    "Observers came to the conclusion that everything meets the necessary standards," - said, for his part, the representative of the European Parliament, MP from Greece Charalampos Angouratis. "If someone says that this is not so, then it will be purely politics," he stressed in an interview with ITAR-TASS.
    Almost 70% of Russians and 25% of Tatars + Ukrainians lived in Crimea. Nevertheless, this does not prevent these people from making a choice in favor of Russia, given how Russia dealt with Crimea in those years when it was their property. I also admit that people who do not want to join Russia simply did not come to vote.
    The turnout was 85% in line with democratic procedures.
    You do not believe in such a choice of the Crimeans because you have not been to the Crimea, did not speak with people. You probably don't believe that more than 70% of Russians agree with the military operation in Ukraine.
    It was not the reactor that fired, but the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who were hiding in the administrative building.
    On the night of March 3-4, the Armed Forces of Ukraine deployed tanks and other armored vehicles right next to the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and are firing towards the Russian troops.
    The calculation is clear: call back fire and eventually provoke a fire and damage at the nuclear power plant itself, blaming Russia for the second Chernobyl.
    By five o'clock in the morning, the following was known: only the administrative building was on fire, the hit in the power unit was known only from the words of Andrei Tuz, an employee of the press service.
    Based on the footage that leaked to the Web, we can conclude that two lighting rockets hit the NPP park
    ing lot.
    Think for yourself, why would Russia destroy the reactor that Russia was building? Why does Russia need a nuclear catastrophe on the land it liberates? If this is so important, then why not destroy the reactor now that it is under Russian control?
    OK. Let's do it. Here is a very characteristic interview - one of many similar interviews with different people.

    Answer honestly, did you look at it, believed in the reality of the girl's words - or was I right? ;-)
     
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    Ukraine has been making their bed since the coup in 2014, and now they're having to lay in it. Good. Maybe if they weren't such sorry POSs and would have implemented the Minsk Accords....that they agreed to....then they wouldn't be getting the **** kicked out of them right now.
     
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    Indeed........and it is doubtful that he would. He is enamored by dictators............suggesting that he wold like that have that kind of absolute power....

    (now there is a concerning thought...;-)
     
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    Russia has already lost the war. The only real question is whether the Putin regime can survive defeat.
     
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    I had wondered about that too:
     
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    If trump had gained a second term in office there would be no limits to his criminality. He would be right there with putin.

    We came a hair's breath from a total failure of our democracy and unleashing a monster on the world who would be far worse than Putin.
     
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    Good luck with that. :laughing:
     
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    History is unkind to dictators who lead their countries into unsuccessful foreign adventures.
     
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    The Russians have a choice: Either they can join the world and oust Putin as an evil aberration no matter the cost. Or they can accept Putin and be hated by the world as much as Hitler and his Nazis.

    Either way putin is toast.
     
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    To go off on a tangent for a moment, this ilustrates another point for me.

    One of the simplest ways to identify a moron in an argument is when they jump straight to 'look who benefits' and then work back from that conclusion to find 'proof'. The phenomenon of Russian Generals/Admirals dying off is a nice, simple example of why 'look who benefits' is logic for children.

    Following that line of logic this war was started by lower ranking Russian officers in order to speed their promotion. Throw in the destruction of equipment and the theory can expand to the Russian arms industry (I'm sure there is a suitably sinister oligarch involved).

    Not relevant to your post, but an opportunity to illustrate a bugbear of mine. :)
     
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