Russia intervention in Syria

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-anti-terror-troops-arrive-syria-164035966--abc-news.html

Well it looks like Russia has already begun deploying soldiers into Syria to protect Assad. These aren't advisers or security units meant to observe the conflict. These are bonafide Russian soldiers armed to the teeth with one mission: To combat the "terrorist insurgency" plaguing Syria. Things just got a whole lot more complicated....

 

Good for them. Now, maybe, the usual suspects will condemn Russia for getting involved in the affairs of another country.

Oh wait...

 

If these Russian soldiers are going to be as involved in this as I suspect, I doubt there will ever be a UN resolution to end this conflict. Nor will the United States or NATO be involved and send troops into the country. Russia is deadly serious about keeping Assad in power now. These rebels may be on their own for a while longer.

 

Did they send more than three ?

 

The rebels are going to need to launch a major attack on Damascus. It will require a large scale guerrilla insurgency within the capital, and a propaganda campaign to convince civilians to join the Free Syrian Army. Maybe they will find a small window of opportunity to get their hands on the Assad regime.

 

We'd be doing the same thing for one of our client states.

 

No doubt. But in the case of Syria, Assad is a sh!tbag who is killing his own people in order to secure his own dictatorship. The Russians have a naval port (their only one in the Med.) and aren't going to risk losing their influence in the region. They aren't supporting Assad because he is the champion of human rights or democracy. They are supporting him because they know his government will protect their interests in the country

 

Hmmmmm. That's a novel way of looking at it.

 

Thanks for not contributing anything to the discussion as usual.

 

It's reality.

We do it, the Russians do it, the Chinese do it, etc.

Yes, we like to pretend what we do is for democracy, just like other nations have their own excuses, but ultimately, it's always about money and strategic power.

 

how so?....

 

I note the international community is not marching in the streets to protest, perhaps because folk know the left's despots could care less about protest.

BoBo is now guaranteed to do nothing..

 

While you are mostly correct, history shows that when America supports third-world scumbags of all stripes the alternatives are usually worse. A quick look at Iran and recently Egypt shows what happens when the US drops such support. Unfortunately it can't be said about China and Russia.

 

What do you believe Obama should do?

 

I can agree with that.

 

The Russians are'nt doing anything Americans havent been doing in the past . Supporting whoever they considered would be useful and secure America's interests. For example former Shah of Iran, Mubarak of Egypt , + dozens of Sth American dictators on who america turned as soon as those Dictators was on their way out and ceased to be usefull.

PLease stop repeating that trite /hackneyed phrase "killing his own people" its BS . - they're NOT his people - hes killing his enemies - people who are trying to kill him. WTF would you do if you was in his boots . ?

I'd also kill every SOB who was trying to kill me , would'nt you ? Let's not forget that Assad's regime still enjoy a considrable amount of support from HIS OWN PEOPLE - those who are not trying to kill him. + his military commanders.



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THe same as all lame duck Presidents ,


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The interesting question is , who are the paymasters of the crack troops blowing up Damascus .
One thing is for sure , they are not classic alQaeda . Probably the fundamentalists shepherded in by NATO and also trained by NATO Forces . Silly me --- Mission Advisors .
That will teach the US military and NATO to be over ruled by Obama . They should have gone in several weeks ago and had Tarsus as number one objective .
Now Obama is going to have to produce some tripartite agreement , possibly even with Basher and Putrid .
Still , if it works , it will give him a landslide election victory .

 

Right, Assad is the champion of human rights and democracy. As long as that democracy only allows one political party and nobody who opposes his dictatorship. Assad as the victim? give me a break.

 

No fly zone based in Turkey and arms embargo plus effective diplomacy, more than words..

 

Those are actions that would require support from the international community. Including Russia and China. Unless we want to assert ourselves in the region again without international support as we did with Iraq. And now that the Russian military is openly operating in the country its unlikely that any UN resolution or American solution will be found.

 

I do not believe we need get permission from the planets weenies to act in our own interests. As to your second point, that was mine...BoBo dithered so long the Russians acted and now it is too late, unless that team had a tragic accident before they got into position.

 

Getting approval from organizations like the UN is seen by many around the world as legitimate. Invading Iraq like we did only painted us as tyrants and bullies. Image goes a long way in geopolitics.

 

So, exactly what we did in Libya?

 

From my perspective, whenever we get approval from the United Nations, we also have to Constitutional declare action. This means that Congress either issues letters of marque to specific regiments of the military (such as the United States NATO brigade), or declares war.