Russian diplomats expelled across US and Europe !

DING....right on target!

 

Yes, I feel for them.

 

Interesting... Russian authorities have been so supportive of Trump's presidency that they even openly warned many times that Hillary's election would start world war. Now Trump's been POTUS but Russians still think "it is the US who's interested in tense relations with Russia"...

1)What interest then the US has in to agitate Russia?
2)How come Trump's presidency -that the Russian administration counts on big time- serves that sort of interest?

 

I think I have already answered your first question: "The explanation is very simple, they want to isolate Russia and make it weaker. They do not need strong Russia as a competitor in the international affairs. When Soviet Union collapsed, the world became a mono-polar and that was good for the US as they did what they wanted to do without asking anyone - for example, bombing Yugoslavia. I can hardly imagine that they could do it during the Soviet Union times. They would be punished for that immediately. Now Russia becomes more strong and the US does its best to isolate it." The second question I do not understand.

 

I axed 2 queshons... Blease answer back in da same order. I don't get witch is which...

Donkeh...

Regords...

Wilhelm Hannah...

 

1)What interest then the US has in to agitate Russia? Answer: I was talking not about agitation, but about the more tense relations. US wants it to isolate Russia and make it weaker. They do not need strong Russia as a competitor in the international affairs. When Soviet Union collapsed, the world became a mono-polar and that was good for the US as they did what they wanted to do without asking anyone - for example, bombing Yugoslavia. I can hardly imagine that they could do it during the Soviet Union times. They would be punished for that immediately. Now Russia becomes more strong and the US does its best to isolate it. I do not understand the question number two.

 

Oh that's so Eurasian that I can even see the tip of Urals from here. Lol...
Do you think Zhirinovsky's and Putin officials' dear friend Trump is isolating Russia and making it weaker? Do you think he does this by saying "we'll be withdrawing from Syria very soon" ?

Do they need strong China? India? Iran? International affairs is not just about military deterrence. Russia's economy is not even a match to many global powers. Wake up.

Serbia? Yeltsin was the weak Russia whereas Putin has been the strong Russia. He has been the president/pm since late 90s-2001-02-03-04-...-14-...18...

Why couldn't he do nothing about Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya? Arab Spring? But could only took advantage of the vacuum in 2011 triggered by the earlier American Decline policies of Obama (2008 plans)?
Why Russia had to wait for another 2-3 years before having involved in Syria? Could Putin be waiting for American withdrawal taking effect? Obviously... Lol...
As for "Unipolarity"; it was just a stage/phase. It started during the Soviet times (Gorbachev) and just got you getting taste of happy meals from McDonald's, grande mochas from Starbucks, some cool Nikey shoes, skateboards, shopping malls, fast consumption stuff, forex, open trade, etc... Look how you guys ended up with? You got American system, American culture, using American technology watching American movies but still trying to piss on America... Just show a little appreciation will ya?

Oh please...

Korean war, Vietnam?
Cambodia, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Laos, Thailand, Bolivia, Zaire, El Salvador, Granada, Guatemala...

Years long wars, all took place in Soviet times, many when they were golden (60s) and there are many US victories. Now what?

If you think Russia is stronger now, then they should deploy ground troops against the US military presence in Iraq, Syria, and elsewhere... Because deterrence would make the US step down and that would work only if the US is convinced Russia is stronger. Why wait? Another withdrawal? I got bad news, that aint going to happen. Soldiers got killed, Trump can't call for it any longer. Blackmail won't be unlocking this one.

#2: How come Trump serves the US interest of tense relations with Russia?

 

Here's one for you and the other gung-ho wackos like dimon, zoom, Kabosh et al - just to let you know that MAD is a 2-way street, a concept which you obviously don't realise . . . watch it, and be afraid . . .

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/2/1...blast-simulator-outrider-nuke-map-war-imagery

be very afraid?? Russia won't start this war, but trust me, they'll finish it.

 

Whuuuuuu... I'm a sht in my pants... Hahaha...

Dude listen, I think what you're missing is that stuff serves just the opposite agenda here:
Giving the US a good reason to develop some sci-fi weapons -like they did in the 40s before them Japs got their asses kicked.

I mean you might wake up one day and find your room hanging in that old Soviet style balcony before realizing HAARP sort of thing just microwaved the sh.t out half of Moscow... Heating up the ionosphere and directing it to any point at anywhere on the planet is sick enough... Believe me...

 

You should seek medical advice because you're not well.

 

Medical? Lol...

 

Yes, I'm afraid so because you're obviously unstable.

 

So you want to say that it is Russia that tensing the relations with the West. Maybe then you explain why?

As for the rest of your post. US and UK try to isolate Russia by making provocations, like organizing coup in Ukraine, making a world case from poisoning a former KGB guy, by the way without presenting any proofs that it was done by Russians. They use the fact that they are heading NATO, so they call other NATO alliance members to create a vacuum around Russia.
Russia does have nothing to do with american system, less with american culture (is there american culture at all?). Russia has its own culture- theater, ballet, literature etc. If you mean by culture McDonalds or Starbucks, then your understanding of culture is completely wrong. So there are no grounds to show any appreciation of the US.
Neither China, nor India have been involved in the real wars like Russia. They are not capable of performing military operations, so your remark about these countries is irrelevant.
As for Yugoslavia, your reference to Vietnam and other countries is irrelevant. First, because they were not in Europe close to the borders with Russia, and second, because they did not belong to the Warsaw military Pact.
Yes, I think Russia is stronger now than in 1990. But it does not mean that it should use the ground troops in Iraq and Syria. Now Russia tries to save its human resources.
You know what, your posts became so much pro-US. Are you on payroll now from the White House?

 

Is it me waging cyber warfare? Meddling elections of various different countries? Partnering up with ultra-nationalist cliques? Siding with rogue leaders? Training gangs to make'em of kill squads and then send them Syria and Ukraine via Wagner sort of mafia-state sponsored institutions? Is it me sending rings of spies to the west and when got caught begging for swap deals? Threatening world peace by nuking whoever attacks its allies? Protecting and defending NK and Iran against the free world? Starting arms race? Undermining European system and values?

No, it must be the ones who are doing all this are raising tensions and those guys are working for the Russian government, not me...

Russia has always been an isolated country. Thats what it chooses...

How come organizing a coup in Ukraine isolates Russia? Ukraine is an officially recognized INDEPENDENT and SOVEREIGN state. Remember? Lol...

That's Russian state who made it a world case when it stupidly followed the Tsar's egocentric reality... Nobody else...

Vacuum is something else. And it's all too normal NATO is called for action when one of the members gets attacked.

Are you being sarcastic or somethin? Because last time I checked it's been almost decades since Russia established a stock market, having forex, and open economy, all of which operates with the equilibrium of supply-demand...
Of course Russia runs a form of American system. It was forced to have.

I agree. But I don't think the Russian youth give any sht to those. They instead prefer rollerskating and listening heavy-metal in Russian. So sad...

No it's not wrong. Fast consumption is a product of social behavior which in modern times with the help of technology turn into cultural activities. In this sense Starbucks reflecting pure American personality because that social behavior demanded fast serving restaurants and cafes. So if you prefer sitting there enjoying your music on American made Iphone/Ipad instead of going nearby Bolshoi, then chances are you might find Russian way of manifestation uninteresting as you liked American way of manifestation better.

Yeah? Japanese must have invaded Venus then. Lol...

Really? Are we talking about the China that has been a state right at where it is now for "thousands of years"? The China victorious of the sino-indian war in 60s? India fought with Pakistan by the way.

First, I'm not sure if you're aware of the reaches of the USSR. It bordered Korea. Today Russia borders it. And second, are you saying the only way for USSR to manipulate a war was depending on how close the war to its borders? You either suppose USSR was not a global power or you don't know what USSR was doing in Cuba.

USSR supported the opposite side the US and allies supported. That's the fact.

Therefore when you say:

You make no sense at all because the US did even more than just bombing during the Soviet epoch all around the world... Most times Soviets pussed away and just sponsored the opposite side. Like they did in the Korean theater.

But it's not like what you think because Putin knows America is at least twice as stronger than what he has under his command. He saw those Tomahawks that can tear apart anything without use of nothing else and halted immediately the further deployment of aircrafts to Syria. Imagine what would have happened had he sent ground troops there... Lol...

All I'm doing is to state facts. Don't get mad when get refuted. Actually you like running better when get refuted tho right? That's what you did once I taught you a lesson about Wagner-ISIS-Jihadis-FSB connections...

 

Since when you are defending European values? Your country blackmailed EU when the refugees crisis happened there couple years ago. You better look in the mirror and see what Turkey is doing and how it sponsors terrorists. Free world...Who is free world? Turkey? Again, why not better to look in the mirror and discuss the **** that is done by Turkey?
And do not talk about the interfering in the US elections- first of all, there is no proof for that, second, even if it was so, I have no pity for the US as they always interfere in Russia internal politics by sponsoring opposition there. If it was the case, they got what they have deserved.
By the way, you did not say if Russia does it why does it need this kind of relation?
How organizing a coup in the country that has a common border with can make an isolation? Very simple. You create a state which is run by your puppet who is hostile towards Russia and who makes the politics to break all relations to Russia.
To have a stock market does not mean to have an American system. Russia has different election procedures- direct elections. It has different court and and law systems.... Nothing common.
To educate you about the realities, as early as in the Soviet Union, the fast food-so called "zakusochnaya", where people could quickly have a snack have already existed. So Mc and Burger was nothing new for Russia. Only the taste was different.
Yes yes, India-Pakistan-- very great war
Of course, the closer the war to the borders, the easier to manipulate it (have you heard something about logistics?).

 

Look who Turkey is sided with.

 

It is hard to say, as it did not send out Russian diplomats Your Erdogan is not that easy person.

 

No it is not hard to say at all...
The funny thing about you is you don't even bother to follow the conversation properly.

I meant Turkey is sided with Russia. But you're so prejudiced that you thought Id say something opposite because thats how people are usually programmed in Asia... No good...

 

And? What is your point?Noone know what in reality Erdogan thinks about the situation and what would be his next steps.

 

Where's this forum going? You delete my post without no warnings or explanation? I turned to look and the post is gone... Censorship? Really? I didn't know we were posting on a Russian board