Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

You guessed a few things correct.

The WINNING OR VICTOR COMPANY...as victor was used in this manner and not as a name...the VICTOR was Lockheed for their Experimental Survivable Testbed Aircraft Program know as....HAVE BLUE....which led to the development of the F-117 Nighthawk Stealth Fighter.

You said this..."Sorry, AboveAlpha, I don't know any of those things for sure. Aircraft trivia was never an interest of mine."

I SPECIFICALLY asked you this because you have stated that you believe most to all of UFO Sightings can be attributed to Secret Air Force Aircraft Programs.

Well...what I am talking about here...that being Ultra-Secret and Highly Classified Stealth Aircraft Development...is responsible for the GREATEST NUMBER OF REPORTED UFO SIGHTINGS IN HISTORY!

Programs like HAVE BLUE and the development of the SR-71, B-2, F/A-22, A-12, F-35...and the X-37B...which is a Robotic Mini-Space Shuttle that fly's 5 to 6 months at a time orbiting Planet Earth as it is a Military Weapon Systems Platform used by the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Space Command.

Still....even though a huge number of UFO reports are caused by such secret programs...there are a small number of UFO reports that are detailing the REAL THING.

AboveAlpha

 

France is a PAIN IN THE ASS!

I swear if we ask them not to do or say anything about something they are like a small child rebelling and will do the EXACT OPPOSITE of what we ask!

I have absolutely no idea why France was even given one of the Permanent U.N. security Council Seats along with the U.S., now Russia, U.K., and now China.

After WWII and when the U.N. was formed for a reason I cannot understand and neither can many of the people I sometimes work with...France was given this spot on the Council as we can only guess the reasoning being due to Old World Concerns.

AboveAlpha

 

You're right; that possibility never occured to me. It was probably because of that Opturian chick from Zeta237 he'd been doing, and wifey found the give-away triassiere (they have three tits)...

 

You think this is but a JOKE...but I assure you it is not.

Take a few minutes to watch the video's of VERY FAMOUS U.S. ASTRONAUTS on page 2 or 3 of this topic where I posted links to Cooper, Mitchell, Aldrin...etc...as these U.S. HERO'S...detail how they encountered Alien's and Alien Crafts during their Missions in Space and Missions to the Moon.

Now think about it....these Hero's have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GAIN AND EVERYTHING TO LOOSE by making such detailed statements.

When an ASTRONAUT TALKS....people should listen.

AboveAlpha

 

Don't even get me started on that Zetatian skank.. Not all Opturians are like that, but the ones from the Zeta worlds are, and I've got germs on me now that human doctors can't even identify. STAY AWAY from "her".

 

Look what I say , maybe Russia have a few different technology of planes . Last summer I saw a triangle subject in Russia , it was 50 meters away from me and quite big , suddenly disappeared , midnight 03.00 , no sound . Just lights at the bottom .

 

Most V or Y or Wedged Shape craft are USAF or Russian Air Force.

AboveAlpha

 

With no sound and ability to teleport ?

 

Thus the word....MOST.

Groom Lake also known as Area 51 is the home of a massive Lockheed Stealth Blimp which has advanced Propulsion and is so large that it is housed in a massive building upon the Groom Lake grounds....LINK...http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/area-51/
LINK..http://www.vincelewis.net/area51.html

AboveAlpha.

 

AIR AND STAFF COLLEGE
UFOs AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE

A Thesis Submitted in Partial Fulfillment of The Requirements for Graduation



AIR AND STAFF COLLEGE

UFOs AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE

Darrell L. Stanley, FR 66348,1931 - Captain, USAF

A Thesis Submitted to the Air Command and Staff College of
Air University in Partial Fulfillment of The Requirements for Graduation

June 1968

Thesis directed by Lieutenant Colonel Dale E. Downing

AIR UNIVERSITY
MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, ALABAMA

CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS

Conclusions

1. Over the years, the evidence on UFOs has continued to mount; and as it has, the reality of UFOs as material, foreign, artificial objects has become increasingly more credible.

2. UFOs are evidently not of terrestrial origin; i.e., it was reasoned persuasively that UFOs are not some secret, advanced development from the U. S., the Soviet Union, or any other nation on our planet.

3. Other planets in our solar system are unsuitable for life as we on earth know it. Therefore, if UFOs are real objects, fabricated by intelligence of some form. (as opposed to earthly creations or natural phenomenon), they most probably originate from outside the solar system.

4. Based on empirical evidence, suitable abodes for intelligent life in the galaxy are surprisingly

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abundant. Extension of this reasoning strongly implies that there are countless extraterrestrial societies older than those on Earth.

5. Because of the probable great number of older, predictably more advanced societies, their technologies could theoretically be expected to greatly surpass our own. It is further concluded that as the sophistication of technology (in general) increases, so does the means to overcome barriers to space travel.

6, As evidenced by the U, S. and the Soviet Union's ventures in space technology, extraterrestrial beings could be expected to eventually develop sophisticated technologies, and to explore space when these had advanced sufficiently.

7. The UFO evidence and the theory of extraterrestrial life is entirely compatible.

8. It does not appear possible in the near future to disprove that UFOs originate from outer space.

Recommendations

1. The United States Government should promulgate greatly increased measures to gain more information about UFOs. Specifically, the aim should be to secure data sufficient to ascertain whether or not UFOs are real,

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Purposefully constructed objects, as the mounting evidence tends to indicate.

2. It is further recommended that these measures include more active means of dealing with UFO sightings. As it stands now, the U. S. Air Force agency designated to do so, evaluates sightings after the fact; likewise, the independent work being done by the University of Colorado, under government contract, is largely devoted to evaluating second hand information, i.e., reports which long ago grew "cold". By active measures, the author means a rapid, airborne response system poised to deal specifically, although perhaps not exclusively, with UFO sightings when they occur. The aircraft involved could be assigned on an area basis, but possibly staged into other or specific localities when warranted by a rash of reported activity. The aircraft should be equipped with special photographic and timing instruments. Aircraft thus equipped, and working in pairs with predesignated intercept techniques could perform triangulation reconnaissance and photography. Data obtained in this manner would reveal the size, speed and range of a UFO, information heretofore decidedly lacking, It would also overcome the ever-present

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problem of witness credibility when evaluating second hand reports or previous occurrences.

3. In line with active measures for dealing with UFOs, recommend that research be conducted to discover feasible means of capturing a UFO. While this recommendation may seem to lack specificity, it should be noted that hovering is a commonly observed UFO characteristic, and one which invites the idea as a possibility. Means to capture one should ideally, although not necessarily, rule out destructive tactics. This is because the basic reason for capture is for the potential discovery of a higher order of technology.

4. That the Air Force Project Blue Book be reconstituted under NASA, with a much larger staff -- including scientists of many disciplines. This should afford the wherewithal to give more study in depth and variety to the passive aspects of analyzing, correlating, and recording data on UFO reports. In addition, expanded independent studies, such as the smaller scale contract with the University or Colorado, should be continued.

LINK...http://www.cufon.org/cufon/afthes1.htm

AboveAlpha

 

The Mike Wallace-Major Donald Keyhoe Interview.

Link...http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0408/ufo-smokescreen.htm

AboveAlpha

 

Yay me! But I can't take credit for a guess.

Yes, I know you asked about Aircraft because of my statements about secret military tests. Good point about the vast number of appearances being old plane design test. And, if we go back to the post 1 message from Russia, they are just planning to release more photos and videos. So, most of the skeptics, like myself, will just view it as more secret planes and light effects and nothing special to look into. In fact nothing you said in #1 indicates Russians are going to show real life-proving ET files rather than more generic stuff like half-finished witness statements, blurry photos, and light distortions.

When I look at those things what's going through my mind is like:
Wow, there's a lot of space junk/ paint flecks/or orbiting rocks around near-earth orbit.
Wow, static on the film! There's your fatal dose of radiation. A star blew up a billion years ago just to give you cancer, lol.
Why doesn't the shuttle have better radiation shielding again? Why do you have windows? There isn't time to flee to a radiation safe room when the radiation is there and gone in mere seconds.
All of those farms visible below are probably now bankrupt after the recession.
You just dropped the huge fuel tank over the country side, nothing bad is going to come of that...
That spot is too big to be an aircraft, just ignore it. Or, (that's not a plane it's your mom).
What aliens, where? I don't see anything. I don't see anything where you're pointing at.
Those flashing spots are overexposure/burn-in in the film, or sensor overload caused by radiation intensity beyond the expected coverage/radiation range of the video equipment, yeah, you probably shouldn't be looking directly at it, it will burn out your eyes.

Anyway, in regard to your earlier mention of a "gravitic" engine, I'm not sure we're on the same page of physics, such as what is mass, 1-dimentional, and relative space-time. I don't really want to go there because it's like getting into an argument over the definition of 'theory' in Scientific method vs common usage.

Actually, If ET exists and is trading technology, I think I've found another reason for the Government to cover it up and keep apart the common world from the secret science: backfilling the physics. If the Government gets a "cheat sheet" of technology that is a million years ahead of us, they have dangerously missed the chance to research a million years of non-obvious fields of research, and the discoveries that go with those things, to build a wall of knowledge from the pieces.

Let's take our old friend Trigonometry: it's been around for thousands of years and has centuries of modern math/science investigation invested in it so that it's completely understood. And, it's become such a vital math tool that the common trig. functions are standard on scientific calculators. It's like they say: we stand on the shoulders of giants. Yet, the dangerous part is that almost no one knows about Trigonometry anymore, not since the invention of computers.

Example: Recently, in a try at recreational mathematics, I decided that (error prone) floating-point math (as used in computers) was for chumps, and I thought it would be interesting to break down the Sine function of Trigonometry so that I could compute it in Arbitrary-precision arithmetic. The problem was that my programming skills were of the Java programming language, and I only had access to BigDecimal and the ability to use basic math. But, because Trigonometry has been forgotten by modern people, I was hardpressed to find details about Sine beyond "just press the button on your calculator." It took me months of HELL to research all the Math syntax, Trigonometry, Factorials, ect. in my free time to get my mind around the math, and then, on top of that, simplify it for basic math. Never have I had greater respect for unsimplified formula numbers and the depths of the efforts our ancestors put into mathematical study so we could "just push a button" to get an answer.

 

Yes...it is a travesty that people and especially KIDS are so poor in Math skills....however I am not one of them.

I will explain this Gravitic Drive in a simple way.

GRAVITY....contrary to common knowledge and even known terminology...as Gravity is known as the Weak Force....Gravity is in fact not a force at all but rather an EFFECT. Gravity is simply any amount of Mass which are in effect the total amount of Protons and Neutrons within an Atomic Nucleus and all of these within any material or object....being able to WARP...Space/Time around it.

This Warping or Folding of Space/Time is GRAVITATIONAL EFFECT.

Now our Universal Space/Time exists at a MINIMUM or 10 or 11 Dimensional States and there are probably more. We know this to be a fact as we can perceive 4 dimensional states right off as Length, Width and Height as well as Time...those being 4 total dimensional states but in reality things such as Light or Photons which are Quantum Particle/Wave Forms in which a Photon exists as both Particle and Wave...must account for more Dimensions than just 4 as well all Matter is completely comprised at it's smallest level as Quanta such as all Protons and Neutrons consist of Quarks, Gluons, Leptons, Mesons, Fermions, Higggs-Bosons...etc...all of which as Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of Energy as well so are Electrons Quanta which exist in Orbital Fields around the Atomic Nucleus.

Now ONE DIMENSIONALITY is specific to GRAVITY as Gravity is an expression of One Dimensionality.

E.T. basically generates a Directed Multiversal Matter/Antimatter Reactioned Energy Cascade which can represent MASS which in turn will FOLD Space/Time very much the same way the Earth warps Space/Time to generate Gravity except this E.T. drive creates a much greater Warp or Fold to allow their craft to travel One Dimensionally from point to point.

AboveAlpha

 

As well...although this cannot be considered evidence to anyone other than myself....I know with 100% certainty that E.T. is a reality. I know because for a very short time...and thank GOD for that...this knowledge was specific to my....JOB.

I will NEVER leak any CLASSIFIED INFORMATION...but I can talk about information that has come into the Public's Consciousness.

One thing in particular I would like to point out is how a former DOE...Department of Energy Employee was stupid enough to open his mouth and publicly talk about S-4...a Ultra-Secret U.S. Military R&D site located near the Groom Lake Facility as for this person to talk about such things is TREASON!

And so is what SNOWDEN has done and said because regardless of his reasons for doing so...there is a lot more information he leaked that was not specific to his objections which has put at risk the lives of people who are Mom's and Dad's with KIDS. And if I was one of these put at risk people KIDS I would want SNOWDEN STRUNG UP for putting my Mom or Dad at risk!

Anyways this former DOE employee who publicly talked about S-4 and the U.S. Military R&D Teams that had been running E.T. Craft Technology and this guy went and talked about this as well as detailed the Gravitic Drive used by such craft is NOW DEAD.

Interestingly enough this man's entire PAST was wiped out to make him look as if he was a fraud. His college records...his DOE records...just about everything that would have connected him with working for the DOE or working for the R&D Team at S-4 was wiped clean....except they forgot about the DOE PHONE BOOK at Los Alamos which is where the U.S. develops Reactor and Weapons Grade Fissile and Fusion capable material.

Now ask yourself this question?

Bob Lazar is dead and after he claimed to work at S-4 his life was destroyed as it should have been. But think about this....Bob Lazar was offered MILLIONS OF DOLLARS....MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...by Radio and T.V. and in BOOK DEALS and offered huge sums for Personal Appearances.

The Military and DOE said he was lying and what he told about was fabricated and a hoax.

After this happened Bob Lazar was almost NEVER SEEN outside his house...in fact for years no one saw him coming or leaving.

Now if it was a HOAX....then why didn't Bob Lazar who was not wealthy accept the MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS offered to him for T.V., Radio and Book Deal?????????????????????????? ???????

WHY?

Why would he not take the Millions if this was made up?

I mean the DOE and U.S. Military went out of their way to say Lazar was just trying to make money fabricating a story......and since ALL OFFERS GIVEN TO LAZAR WERE NEVER RETRACTED....HE COULD HAVE ACCEPTED ANY MASSIVE MONEY OFFER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DAY HE DIED?????

WHY OH WHY WOULD HE NOT EXCEPT?????

Because he was told if he took one step outside his home he would get a BULLET IN HIS HEAD!!!!!!

Lazar was under house arrest and the only reason he was not tried and executed for being a TRAITOR is because of the attention it would have given to his claims!

Now he is dead and he died young.

Now why do you think he died so young?

AboveAlpha

 

No, France is good for ass! ) English and rolling right that count miles etc., that is normal? France and Europe will join the transatlantic market, it should please you, right? The problem is that France is the small dog U.S. lobbyists who do not care subprime and millions of people that they put out on the street! It is useless to oppose the countries of Western them. It is the system that must screw up, not people.

 

AboveAlpha, maybe you should stop describing things now. As much as I enjoy talking to you about this subject, if you continue to describe the hypothetical, untested physics of "E.T." engine perhaps someone is going to come along soon to have a chat with you regarding what is safe to post on the internet. I'm just saying...


Anyway, I don't recall Bob Lazar. I guess the Government did a good job of covering him up, and thank goodness for the short-term memories of Americans, right? The Government doesn't need to do all of the work for the winds of outrage to blow over and away, time works too. But, whoopsie for letting it slip out that he died? But then, Bob Lazar has been dead and back before according to my web search of him.

BTW, when did this leak thing happen again? I don't remember. Well actually, I hazily remember something years ago about the body of a scientist turning up dead, but that might have been the start of Iranian nuclear scientist assassinations, so I've paid it little mind.

As for the punishment of Treason, now wait a minute, I don't agree that treason has to be a death sentence anymore. I seem to recall that several people committed treasonous acts against the USA in recent years and lived. There was a civilian man, during W Bush's administration, who was arrested for conspiring with Al-Qaeda, but later he was somehow reformed in prison, and then he was released and hailed as an all-American boy. And next, of course, there's Manning who leaked secrets to WikiLeaks and he didn't die, he just went away to military prison for a LONG time. Even foreign spies (such as Anna Chapman) are being sent home with a slap on the wrist.

I consider the Department of Energy to be a civilian grade/level organization not a military organization. There's little reason for me to expect military level discipline from their employees. Even if the employee had to sign a non-disclosure agreement because his skills were needed on a secret ops, I think it's totally unfair if Lazar ended up dead instead of going through the courts. Such a move, from my perspective, would be nothing less than retribution killing because someone thought he would get off easily (which he would have been given recent trends). Lazar was in America he wasn't unreachable like some militant in an overseas terrorist training camp.

The only reason someone would end up dead, and it would somehow be permissible, rather than the result of violent human nature rearing its ugly head, would be if the person crossed a red line and not just any red line but one with grave implications. Grave and urgent like in if the person doesn't die the nuclear missiles are going to launch in 10 minutes, because of stolen codes or something, but it would take 11 minutes to reset the codes. Yeah, for me, the crime would have to be for something far worse, and an immediate danger, rather than mere embarrassment or inconvenience for the punishment of death to be justified.

 

Not to be rude but could you repost this as I have not a clue what you are saying.

AboveAlpha

 

I would like to ask you to look at this link detailing EXACTLY what is done at the Department of Energy's Los Alamos Facility and after looking at it you tell me what you think?

LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alamos_National_Laboratory

AboveAlpha

 

Cool, Russia you go! END THE EMBARGO OF THE TRUTH OF E.T.!!!!! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW.

 

The reason the aliens crashed the craft in New Mexico is because the pilots were alien teenagers who were learning to maunavers the craft, there were alien teachers on other crafts too, it wasn't only one crash. Mixed with other reasons like our military have developed some sort of tech affect the alien craft, the weather, faulty equipment.....And YES, the advance aliens are 1000 time more advance than human, however, they can still make mistake, because they are not the most advance and most powerful afterall. Just better than human, that'a all. So, alien crash their craft is not really that impossible.

 

Uhhh....Lynx? What the HELL are you talking about?

PLEASE...do me a favor.

The MAIN reason why people do not take anyone who details the realities of the existence of E.T. seriously is because many people in their excitement either talk about E.T. FANTASY'S or MAKE UP STORIES.

Now I don't know where you got the information you just posted here but I can assure you this IS NOT TRUE.

First of all the specific RACE of E.T. that crashed in New Mexico...that species which is commonly known as the GREY'S...in pop culture....and that is not their name nor does their form of communication lend itself to a Human Based assignment of specific value based upon a NAME.....that race does not develop the same way as Humans do so don't think their are Little Alien Babies that grow up to be Teenagers and then adults...because they DON'T.

They do not even reproduce SEXUALLY ANYMORE....nor are they what anyone could associate or consider MAMMALS...if fact....FAR FROM IT!

So....PLEASE....don't assign HUMAN values and Human characteristics to an ALIEN RACE as they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from any and all life on this Planet....and when you post things like you have done above it just makes people who might have a level of reasoning ability look at you and anyone associating with you cross eyed and with disbelief.

Thanks.

AboveAlpha

 

Not sure if it was in a link ive missed, but anyway i found some Bob Lazar stuff. Watched the first one so far which appears a segment of the second, interesting

How Alien Spacecrafts Work - Bob Lazar
[video=youtube;SqvnbgGPdmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqvnbgGPdmI[/video]

[video=youtube;yvmie0zxjzw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvmie0zxjzw[/video]

Bob Lazar passes the lie detector test on UFOs
[video=youtube;BtSzLsGT5Ys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtSzLsGT5Ys[/video]

 

First thoughts: It sounds like a cool place so many scientists in so many disciplines, and they even appear to offer privileged access to students, but it's totally out of my league, sadly (I'm genuinely sad).

Second thoughts: There are a lot of disciplines being used for a nuclear weapons research lab, talk about diversity (national security, space exploration, renewable energy, medicine, nanotechnology, and supercomputing.). I thought nuclear weapons research was basically a finished field, unless you're Iran or N. Korea and just starting up? Okay, yes, I get it, they went into other fields of research.

Third thoughts: That lab has had a lot of problems with security and inventory glitches during the 1999 to mid-2000s time period. A one Wen Ho Lee went to jail for "mishandling classified information" and, over the years, a few head people retired because of all those problems.

Other thoughts: I don't see why Bob Lazar's crime was any worse than the other stuff going on. Not to say it wasn't a serous crime (because it was serious) but suddenly mention "Aliens" and it was enough to deserve death, really? Why did he need to die? Was it the trigger for an "E.T." invasion? Were they illegally researching "E.T." tech (don't answer that)?

 

I will tell you something.

Even though I am just talking about things specific to E.T. that is ALREADY in the public's consciousness and even though I KNOW there is nothing I am saying that hasn't already been said publicly and that I would also NEVER talk about or post about anything that was classified....and even though I know all this and know I am perfectly in line with what can or cannot be talked about.....I AM STILL NERVOUS.

You just don't do what Bob Lazar did....unless you want to die.

We are talking about the U.S. Military's Reverse Engineering Program that involves ALIEN TECHNOLOGY AND ALIEN CRAFT....which uses a MATTER/ANTIMATTER Multiversal Cascade Energy Generation Reaction creating enough energy in multiple Divergent Universal States in a Multiversal System which is enough power to represent the MASS of a large STELLAR BODY...as such a Gravity Well would be needed to Fold or Warp Space/Time to a sufficient degree to allow a craft to travel multiple to hundreds of light years in a single jump.

This is enough energy to blow up AN AREA FROM OUR SUN OUT TO JUPITER.

So...you tell ME....just to what extent they would want to keep this tech...safe?

AboveAlpha

 

US army wanted send atomic bomb on Vietnam. All high officials knew it and nobody talked about it, except one... About UFO, i think same. All high officials doesn' t want "normal people" know the truth. Coz they maybe could become crazy... And during cold war between angry capitalists and nice communists ) the armamant was need last technologies... If USSR understood technologies from alien she would dominate the world. And same for USA. Happyly, nobody still now understand this technology, even so brilliant french people! ))