Same sex marriage

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by WAN, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. rahl

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    they don't need to. Marriage is just fine.
     
  2. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One Man, One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars’ Op-Ed http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/biblical-marriage-iowa-scholars-op-ed_n_3397304.html

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  3. rahl

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    nobody is forcing you to accept it. You are free to think whatever you like about homosexuality.

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    you can not substantiate this claim.
     
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    Appeal to Tradition is a logical fallacy. Just because something has always been done doesn't mean it is right so that argument has no merit.
     
  5. Johnny Brady

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    Perhaps gays instinctively know that homosexuality is wrong, so they try to dress it up to look "respectable" by hijacking the marriage ceremony?
     
  6. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    LOL! Try again.
     
  7. ProgressivePatriot

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    Gay 'marriage' in medieval Europe

    Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean. Apart from the couples' gender, these events were almost indistinguishable from other marriages of the era. Twelfth-century liturgies for same-sex unions — also known as "spiritual brotherhoods" — included the recital of marriage prayers, the joining of hands at the altar, and a ceremonial kiss. Some historians believe these unions were merely a way to seal alliances and business deals. But Eric Berkowitz, author of Sex and Punishment, says it is "difficult to believe that these rituals did not contemplate erotic contact. In fact, it was the sex between the men involved that later caused same-sex unions to be banned." That happened in 1306, when the Byzantine Emperor Andronicus II declared such ceremonies, along with sorcery and incest, to be unchristian.

    http://theweek.com/articles/475141/how-marriage-changed-over-centuries
     
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    Of course, it does not take much steam to "not care".

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    Apathy is not not good for society and reflects a people that have became more self centered. History shows this is how societies collapse.

    Just as an example:

    https://youtu.be/I8BRdwgPChQ
     
  9. ArmySoldier

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    Must take a lot of steam to get butt hurt
     
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    Wrong. The spread of AIDS can be traced back to a homosexual flight attendant.
     
  11. slackercruster

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    Same as you.
     
  12. doombug

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    I would not know. How much effort does it take to keep one's head buried in the sand?
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would know. You're very butt hurt. According to you, the US is a sinking ship like the titanic.
     
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    Nice strawman. Where did I make such a claim? I didn't. I am simply making the comparison of folks who refuse to accept reality. The bubble people who are only concerned with their own existence and are too lazy to concern themselves with bigger issues.
     
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    What does it say about pre marital sex and divorce in the bible?
     
  16. ArmySoldier

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    It's hard to take you seriously when you compare gay marriage to the end of modern society. Who'da thought? Me? I was gonna guess a nuke.
     
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    Cue the straw men and ad hom attacks. Just more signs of the intellectually lazy. Here is the kind of thinking we need. She lays out her case pretty solidly:

    [video=youtube;I8BRdwgPChQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ[/video]


    Now, the transgender thing is not exactly the same as gay marriage but the video is an example of how actually thinking about something works. Perhaps it is too difficult for some?
     
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    Is anal sex deviant when a man and woman have anal sex or are you being discriminatory towards a man on man anal sex? FYI the Anus is the same on a man and a woman. I've stuck many enemas and suppositories and colonoscopy up my butt. It's definitely not for me sexually speaking but the hole is there and some people get pleasure from it
     
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    I don't need to try again. You are not forced to accept anything. You are free to think whatever you like about homosexuality. That is not debatable.
     
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    how is homosexuality wrong?
     
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    When the US fails because of gay people getting married, I'll be the first person to apologize. Until then, I'm gonna go laugh this off

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    I asked that question earlier and received no response.
     
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    no it can't. You can not substantiate your claim.
     
  23. doombug

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    And? What happens when people reject homosexuality as being normal? Ask those who were sued for refusing to bake a cake. Ask those who refused to issue marriage licenses to gays. Yes, there is plenty of forcing.

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    Another strawman. No one is saying gays cause societies to collapse. It is the bubble people and their apathy. In other words, your fault. Anyone who refuses to think has no choice but to laugh it off.
     
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    Quick, someone get this guy a safe space. We caused society to fail cause no one cares if gay or straight people get married.
     
  25. doombug

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    Safe spaces and bubbles are for the intellectually lazy so I do not need them. I do not need ad hom attacks neither. You see I believe in putting thought into issues instead of burying my head.
     

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