Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

    Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

    Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

    Would you do as Adam did?

    Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

    Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

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    Satan must be the twin brother of God since he is just as powerful..
     
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    Let’s see; he kills only 10 people while god kills millions, he gave man knowledge when ignorance was the default state, and doesn’t even have a book with his side of the story.

    If he was real, he’s a better guy already.
     
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    My theory is that Covering Cherub Lucifer may have felt that the best chance of saving his own followers.... the third of the angels who followed him..... would be to drive Adam and Eve and their children down into a lower and lower and lower state?????


    https://www.near-death.com/science/articles/richard-eby-and-secomd-coming-of-christ.html#a03


    Whether or not Satan knew that this would eventually work.... I don't know... but I do believe that we will all rise up out of our fallen state.
    https://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a08

     
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    Satan didn't create anything, God created him.

    God also created evil.

    What neither you or Satan realize is that you are both part of His plan.
     
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    But God made as mistake. He gave Satan so much power that Satan can increase his power by himself and defeat God.
     
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    Haha, even Satan knows what the end is.

    He blindly believes there is a way to defeat God and in a way exemplifies all humans on earth who think that they are better than God, that He doesn't exist, they refuse to see the truth in front of them.
     
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    Sounds like a Christian version of "clash of the titans".
     
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    I do not see evil as a creation. It is more like the absence of good.
     
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    I think the absence of good would leave a person with nothing.

    Evil, in my opinion is a creation.

    This is one paradox with God that nobody can really answer.

    Its like the question of if God created a rock He could never lift, would He ever be able to lift it because there is nothing He can't do.

    And if its impossible for Him to create something He can't do then is He really an all powerful God?

    So why couldn't God create us without the interjection of evil unless He just is evil to begin with?

    Certainly He could have found a different way?

    I don't believe that of course but it is the argument put out by some atheists.
     
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    But he's not just as powerful hence why he was expelled from Heaven.

    While he was considered the most perfect angel he was nowhere near God.

    God even commanded him to bow before humans (which he refused to do because of his vanity).

    In fact, the Archangel Michael kicks his ass frequently.

    lol
     
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    You think a perfect being could produce a higher grade of lackey...
     
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    God is all knowing and all powerful.
    God created Satan and humankind.
    God casts Satan into Hell.
    God knows that Satan is going to tempt human beings to sin.
    God does not stop him.
    Humans that are tempted by Satan end up in Hell to be tortured FOREVER.
    This is God's plan.
     
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    Yeppers
     
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    'The bigger the lie, the more will believe it.' And 'religion' is the biggest lie of all.
     
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    All one has to do is look at the universe. There really is no such thing as cold. Cold only describes the absence of heat. Absolute Zero means cold has a limit. How do we get "cold"....by removing heat.

    A good example is an air conditioner. The unit is designed to remove heat not add cold. Cold cannot be added because it does not exist.

    Cold is a word used to describe a state. Same with evil.
     
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    but he's a loving god.
     
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    That is not what the bible says but in Job 2;3, god does admit to being moved to sin by Satan so it might depend on the circumstances.

    God did show more power though by kicking Satan out of heaven.

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    Well it's just a matter of time before they find a Jedi to set things right..
     
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    Indeed, but Satan is a she. You do not have breasts like her.

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    So knowing of love is a lower state to you.
    Explain.

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    You know for a fact that god has a plan, how?

    Satan is a her. See the painting above and recognize that men do not have those types of breasts.

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    You know God exists as a fact, how?

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    It is not a paradox to Christian evolution theology.

    You just do not want to believe in evolution as that explains evil quite well and is not even in conflict with the possibility of your supernaturalstupid ideas of god.

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