Saudi Oil Giant CEO says world should abandon the fantasy of living without oil

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  1. FatBack

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    Somewhere in the pub thread are pictures I have posted over the years of the human powered devices that I have fabricated.
     
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    The solution is exactly what many countries are doing, and the individuals residing in those countries are driving the change. One change at a time. One person who abandons his car for mass transit at a time. One replaced ICE car with an EV at a time. One pumped water hydro station at a time. One passive solar / thermal mass home at a time. One geothermally cooled home at a time.
     
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    Don't look at me because I did my part. Up until my late 30s I rode a bicycle my entire life, an average of 20 miles a day.

    It is not practical for people living anywhere but cities to abandon their car in favor of mass transit. It just totally isn't practical
     
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    Plenty of other ways, especially around the home.
     
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    When you live 10 miles or so out in the county there are no buses that run out there.
     
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    As I’ve often said, there seems to be an inverse correlation between passion for things like EVs and actual knowledge of the object of that passion.

    Just an observation….
     
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    The Saudi CEO is speaking to the millions and millions of world-wide people who want to internally justify non-action regarding climate change. I'm not being critical of the decisions that people make. Everybody's situation is different. However, I hope that many take his comments as a challenge to a call for action.
     
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    Sure. I’m just hoping “taking action” is based on reality. I think misrepresenting EVs is actually counterproductive long term.
     
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    The political cost of Net Zero is becoming clear in Europe.
    European Conservatives: How Has Fossil Fuel Suppression Worked Out For You?
    April 03, 2024/ Francis Menton
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    • Throughout the West, the cult of fossil fuel suppression presents itself as an orthodoxy from which no dissent is permitted.

    • In the U.S., there has been substantial and growing resistance to the enforcement of that orthodoxy, among Republicans in general and particularly from red and energy-producing states.

    • By contrast, in Europe, there has been little push-back. Somewhere along the line, in country after country, the drive for Net Zero carbon emissions got the backing of an effective all-political-party consensus. In a gigantic political miscalculation, many mainstream center-right conservative parties got fully on board.

    • That mistake now looks to destroy several of these parties in the major countries.
    READ MORE
     
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    Yes I live about 20 miles from the nearest store. No buses either. I have 5.2 KWatts of Wind and Solar It powers not just the electricity for our home, but also much of the electric for our PHEV, We pay about $5-$10 for gasoline a month.
     
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    And what was your upfront cost of said vehicle?

    I doubt it is accessible too people on the more modest bank account side of things
     
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    I bought it new in 2018, with a discount for hail damage. It was around $32K.
     

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