Say goodbye to your carefree Covid summer

The danger we face is multi-faceted, Matt.

First, it grows increasingly obvious that we've ALL been lied to from 'day-one' by everybody, including the Chinese, other foreign governments, many in our own government, the WHO, the CDC, etc., thus making it difficult to take any logical, rock-solid assumptions about anything.

Second, the uncertainly about nearly everything about this disease (except that, yes, it is a dangerous, potentially lethal virus) makes it very difficult for many to decide what to do regarding what the 'experts' tout as "immunization". And, do you want two-step mRNA vaccine, or the J&J 'jab'...? (Do you want coffee or tea? Both have 'caffine'....).

Third, are you REALLY protected against the virus and its 'variants' even after you get vaccinated? If so, for how long? Will you then be required to get a 'booster', or some other shot...? And it may go on like this for YEARS....

Disclaimer: for a variety of reasons, we went ahead and got both Pfizer vaccine shots, and with no regrets (or side-effects, either). Do what you want to do -- but try to inform yourself intelligently and with circumspection before you rule vaccines out altogether.

 

I was waiting for somebody to post this. So.... we shouldn't get vaccinated then?

 

You make it easy.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...an-6-was-really-about.590152/#post-1072790501
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-last-few-days.590112/page-5#post-1072790457
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...at-donald-trump.590114/page-2#post-1072790072
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...to-treat-donald-trump.590114/#post-1072789993
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...us-election-challenge.590120/#post-1072789323
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-last-few-days.590112/page-4#post-1072789160
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-trump’s-claims.590081/page-2#post-1072789147
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...theory-hysteria.589959/page-8#post-1072789126
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ing-to-new-book.590102/page-4#post-1072788485
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-unvaccinated’.590043/page-14#post-1072788425
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ag-misinformati.590030/page-9#post-1072786424
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ict-change-them.589963/page-4#post-1072786325
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ed-upon-return.589938/page-11#post-1072785925
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...pcoming-season.590051/page-14#post-1072785712

 

LOL, you think proving something I said that is factual proves something. Now prove me wrong since you say it's all fake.

 

Do what you want. Is that your conclusion?

 

The conclusion I desire is one in which integrity exists in people's conclusions.

i.e. They don't get to say "My body, my choice" related to pregnancy, and then yet demand that other people get vaccinated for their own benefit.

 

The information I provided is just that, information for you to draw your own conclusion.

Personally I am for freedom of choice. As far as pregnancy is concerned I believe it is between the doctor and the patient and not government. Government is the problem when it comes to freedom.

 

Feel free to challenge any of those points I detailed. My arguments will hold.

 

I don't do anything for political reasons but I do know that I could work my tail off trying not to spread covid and it would have zero effect on the nation. So I ignore it. I am vaccinated so ignoring it is probably the right thing for me.

 

George Soros And Bill Gates' Backed Consortium To Buy U.K. Maker Of Covid Tests For $41 Million

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidd...r-of-covid-lateral-flow-tests-for-41-million/

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Well the good news is you're not being asked to work your tail off. You're just being asked to wear a mask and get vaccinated, so you're already half way there it sounds like which is a lot more than 1/2 the country is doing. So GJ!

 

Jesus never had to pull his pants up

 

Why do you hate capitalism?

 

Then why do you hate?

 

You didn't make any claims beyond the general, 'anyone who doesn't believe everything the government says is a selfish fool'.

Nothing to challenge in what you said other than to say pasha to all of that.

Like I said, if the virus were really as serious as to be called a pandemic, they wouldn't need to pad their stats with gunshot victims, and car accidents, and drug overdoses, and guys falling off roofs, etc.

I knew people who got the virus - was less than the flu in every case. Even with the lying about the mortality rate, it's still less than zero.

The Spanish Flu?? That was a pandemic

They're using this to psychologically attack the population and prepare you for much worse to come. They are deliberately debauching the currency, destroying the economy, and creating more dependence on government.

If you can't see thru the smoke and mirrors, nothing I say will help you.

 

They are hiding the cases where vaccinated folks are catching COVID.

White House hasn’t disclosed past breakthrough COVID-19 cases.

“The White House has not disclosed past breakthrough cases of COVID-19 among fully vaccinated staff members, although none of the cases have occurred among commissioned officers, White House press secretary Jen Psaki confirmed during Tuesday’s press briefing.”

She'll have to circle back to explain why they have been concealing this information from the American People

 

Just as dangerous are people who repeat Big Lie(s). Like Trump supporters.

 

Dude, blindly following the dictates of a government that...

1) doesn't have the legal authority to issue or enforce those dictates,

2) is clearly lying about the facts that supposedly justify those illegal dictates,

3) is clearly using "crisis" to destroy our currency and republican system of governance...

... embracing those leftist, illegal, more dangerous than any virus, actions - there is nothing "principled" about that.

You are not being faithful to humanitarian principles, you are blindly following the pied piper into a trap from which society will likely never escape.

They've been working toward collapsing our economy and society for decades, for the purpose of removing the most difficult obstacle in their path to global hegemony - the U.S. Constitution.

There's nothing noble or proper about following the lies of despots.

 

Exactly. I flipped out when the mask mandate was lifted for the vaccinated. We all knew this meant the unwashed would just though away their mask too and that numbers would soar. But, the guidance was changed anyway. And now look. We are in deep ****.
This India reedition of the virus produces 1,000 times more viral load! Yes, 1,000 times.
To break this down, you can now get Covid from simply walking by someone infected outdoors wear as before you had to be in their proximity for approximately 15 minutes indoors.

It will make last year look like a walk in the park.

Not sure what makes Fauci a fool?????

Can you share your perspective in this regard?
Thanks

 

Even though both Fauci in his emails said they were ineffective and previous studies in 2009 for H1N1 said they were ineffective.

Wearing a mask has become a politically expedient issue since it resonates with the common man that is not versed with the science. Wear a mask you are good, don’t wear a mask you are bad. Simple politics.

 

They were??? You are now speaking of masks?

Are you saying wearing a mask is political? If so, you need to explain to me how on earth advising people to wear a mask is political? What is the purpose politically????

 

Politically expedient. Fear has power. The population does everything wrong as far as masks are concerned. If masks were so effective why don’t you see public announcements on what to do with used masks? The only effective masks are N95 and better masks that form fit the face. Then they are only used for a specific amount of time before being thrown away in a controlled environment and hand washing before and after handling is paramount.

The public uses cloth masks proven to be worse than using no mask at all and ill fitting hospital masks they use over and over.

One only needs to use logic to see the disparity.

 

Well I wasn't talking about government I was talking about the bedrock principles of Conservatism and the citizens that failed to uphold them when they were needed most. After all, prior to this if I had to bet on one branch of ideology rising up to do what was necessary to safeguard America during a pandemic it would have been the right-wing. But what did we get from Republicans instead? In general, we got belligerent selfishness and a betrayal of core tenets. From our then-President, to members of Congress, to Governors, to city councils, to pundits, to influencers, and finally to most regular voters. From the top down we pretty much got a unified right-wing voice that used all those points you listed and more to justify their refusal to do what was necessary.

And if that wasn't bad enough, on top of all of the betrayals to community and country the fact that Republicans chose this path of ignorant incompetence is even more disappointing because of how obvious of a strategic blunder it was. I mean, holy hell my guy. Politicians going all anti-mask in the middle of a pandemic that also happens to be an election year. Hahah, I mean how stupid can one get?!?! Even if I was a heartless bastard who didn't care if I played a role in making people sick and possibly dead I still couldn't respect the moronic strategy that Republican leaders pulled. I seriously doubt they could have done more damage to GOP campaign drive than if they had held a joint press event before every media outlet in the country and then just started yelling the n-word at the top of their lungs.

Yea, progressives would love nothing more than to collapse the country, its economy, all of our traditions and values. Well, guess what friend, the general Republican behavior and mentality regarding COVID made it that much easier for them. Two Senate seats, two seats my guy, that's how close we are to total oblivion. A net gain of two Senate seats next year and we will get: open borders, 2 new states, a packed liberal SCOTUS, New Green Scam, CRT in every classroom, citizenship of illegal, socialism as far as the eye can see, and every other item from the progressive wish-list. Republicans seriously overestimated the size of their base in figuring that they could cover the lost votes due to COVID belligerence. Independents, some moderate Republicans, first time voters, even some prior Trump voters, made it clear last election that they would rather see Democrats handle things and COVID was a primary motivator for their decision. So by all means, double down on anti-masking and anti-vaxxing. If they take midterms, and do the things I listed, you and I will likely die before we ever see Republican control return to federal government. Imagine... trading away the future of America over A MOTHER ****ING FACE MASK!!!#^%

 

Tool, not fool. I think he is a tool in that his motivations for giving the opinions and guidance which he does are not motivated primarily/always on medical or scientific fact but rather first and foremost on sustaining his status and financial position and pleasing those who facilitate such. He can be right, be can be wrong, it really doesn't matter I just have no faith in someone who can be so easily and obviously bought. Good news is the end all be all of COVID knowledge is not within this man.