Science Killed Racism

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    "In a very real sense, all people alive today are Africans."

    The article goes into detail, explaining the reality of modern humanity.

    Race is not real. It's a social construct. We are all related to the same tribe of ancestors who migrated out of eastern Africa around 50-70k years ago. This band of humans spread out across the globe, replacing previous human species, including Neanderthal and Denisovan, who themselves had migrated out of Africa hundreds of thousands of years before.

    Racism is based on junk science.
     
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    A problem with that theory is that they did not all evolve the same.
     
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    Violent scientific mob strikes again! Kill rascism? How dare they!
     
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    Bigotry and science are not compatible
     
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    I really like it every time leftists say race is a social construct as if that is somehow a form of de-legitimizing the concept of race altogether. Well no it doesn't because there is an endless amount of social constructs in society and some of them are so very vital in that society wouldn't be able to exist without them.

    There are some competing theories to the whole out of Africa theory regarding ancient migration patterns of early human populations.

    Also, you heard it from me first here but I have no problem in saying we're all human beings it's just that we're all not identical where there is variation.
     
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    So ... on a serious note. Adam & Eve might call dibs on human lineage, but the origins of homo sapiens is moot. If we accept that we all share common ancestors it doesn't alter todays reality. Darwinism, science, promotes the THEORY of racial supremacy. Natural selection teaches that evolution favors the fittest. Clearly some races advanced and developed better than others, and we only have to look to science to interpret what that indicates. Superiority. I'd argue Asians are at the top of the evlolutionary food chain, were I to fully accept evolution. Thankfully my creator doesn't rank his offspring by color or even intellectual capacity.
     
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    Yes and no. Science have proved that different kind of population had different kind of abilities. For instance eastern asian and african have a resistance against malaria, euro like population digest more easily milk, tibetans have easiers abilities to live in a oxygen poor environnment and so on.
    50 to 70 000 years ago is rather recent.

    Anyway, even if it's only a "social construct", that's still a social construct that influence heavily our existence. The reality is that people of different race manage to coexist only on an individual scale, if you go on the society scale, it always produce disharmonious societies.

    The human brain is made to create categories and add some qualities to those categories. It's something very instinctive. It's better for our brain to associate a lot snakes with danger, even if some are not dangerous. It helped us to survive. But our brain is poorly able to function outside this categories way of thinking. We're tribal animals, if we're leftist we must agree with leftist opinions, if we're right winged, wem ust agree with right winged opinions. The human brain is able to reason, but poorly. It have to judge by categories. Such kind of things or group is bad, such kind of things are good. Nuanced opinion aren't something we're clearly able to do.

    Even if it's artificial, human in their vast majority will be always vastly racist. That racism can change of shape. It's funny to see all those leftists who always want to defend someone black just because he is black, even if it's an *******. It's just they can't help but judging black people in their globality. Either they have to be all nice or all mean. Both of those case are false by the way.
     
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    The globalist social utopians can't figure out in their delusional form of idealistic thinking that they'll never destroy racial ethnic identity or ethnocentrism. [Racism]

    In fact the more they try to do so by labelling everybody racists the more opposition to themselves they'll end up creating.
     
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    Variations caused by environmental factors.
     
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    So let's find a consensus here.

    Is racism justified?
     
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    Fittest doesn't always mean the physically stronger as intelligence has everything to with survival also. I too subscribe to a Darwinian view of survival and existence as well concerning a naturalist outlook on life. There is of course a flaw to Darwinian thinking that goes something on the lines of the most successful or intelligent becoming their own worst enemy where they themselves eventually become a detriment to their own survival.

    Imagine if you will a predatory large fish that evolved to be a master predator and adapter to its environment, now imagine it depleting its food source overtime because it was overly successful where many of them starve out in dying or are forced to commit cannibalism on one another just to survive. There are some areas where Darwinian explanations are a bit lacking.

    Going back to your original post if we're to accept the Darwinian position of survival of the fittest or even the idea of different nations, cultures, and societies competing against one another then one would think racial egalitarianism is existentially suicidal.
     
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    And?
     
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    I hate using that word.

    Is ethnocentrism justified? Yes, it is.

    There's nothing wrong with discrimination and preference.

    Do you discriminate on other things outside of race or ethnicity? We all do.

    Why is race or ethnicity so different then?
     
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    There is no simple answer.

    Judging people based strictly on race is wrong. However, people are different and anyone who believes that we are all the same except for skin color are deceiving themselves. Cultures and values evolve along with everything else and some of those values are wrong.
     
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    Most of them are racialist. I red recently the opinion of a far leftist. And it was more extremly racist than a almost every far right writting. It's just they're anti white.
    She was against the depicting of white actors in a chinese movie, apparently considering that to be a true chinese you had to be yellow. She is very close to people thinking that true european can only be white.
     
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    All I know is that they're eventually going to take this anti whiteness stuff too far one of these days and undoubtedly in the future people will begin marching in the streets saying enough is enough.
     
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    Everything as an end and the nowodays leftist ideology will come to an end, soon or later. Their arrogance is their death. I'm living in France, and there is more and more mixed race people. I consider this rather positive in the sense that it will create more bonds between black and white people. There is will be stupid mixed people, smart one, *******s, good one, like in the rest of the society but in a general way they're will be more free than the rest of the population to mock the black supremacists.
     
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    Can't say I shared your enthusiasm for mixed people but from what I hear that comes out of France the leftism over there resembles full blown communism. You have my condolences and sympathies for your once great nation.

    I myself am half French and German.
     
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    And...not caused by genetic sub-species or races.
     
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    Moot ... and why socialism fails. Materialism, classism, oligarchy. Sunni / Shia perfect example of identicle people, identical enviromen warring.
     
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    You're confusing culture with race.
     
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    I consider true France as dead. From a cultural point of view, not political view, the only true France who existed started to disappear with the french revolution. But I prefer black and white people to **** each other and raise children together than start an ethnic war.

    I'm however deeply worried about the disappearance of the french culture who is just replaced by a sub american culture. Now, France is full of gangsta rappers who glorify ethnic violence against white people, and crime in a general way.

    Going from Rameau to Booba, what a disgrace.
     
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    Alright well even with that it in no way delegitimizes the cultural, national, and historical perceptions of race or ethnicity.
     
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    Nothing new here and this has been known as long as I can remember. The controversy is as man spread across the planet and different cultures developed and different groups of people interbred and adapted to different environments there was significant changes. Why did Europe evolve into first agriculture and then the industrial revolution while much of mankind was still in the stoneage and still hunter gatherers? I think that's where racism gets it's start.
     
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    If race was defined among ethnic lines, I would believe it had some scientific merit.

    However, people are grouped by skin tone and that skin tone apparently predicts behavior accordingly to those who define people by race. Anyway, with the amount of overlap of traits across many groups, the idea of race is incredible.
     
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