Sea level rise is accelerating

Good , good , my house is on a hill like 50m from the sea surface, after it becomes next to the beach price will tripple.

 

one of the denier world arguments is the high cost of green energy, when you begin calculating the cost of just losing southern Florida to rising sea levels the cost of green energy becomes a very attractive option...

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which your great, great, great grand children may benefit from...

 

Bodies washing out of WWII graves...

Rising seas wash Japanese war dead from Marshall Islands graves
Friday 6 June 2014 ~ Officials blame climate change as 26 skeletons are found on Santo Island after high tides batter Pacific archipelago

 

"Kiribati is a flyspeck of a United Nations member state, a collection of 33 islands necklaced across the central Pacific. Thirty-two of the islands are low-lying atolls; the 33rd, called Banaba, is a raised coral island that long ago was strip-mined for its seabird-guano-derived phosphates. If scientists are correct, the ocean will swallow most of Kiribati before the end of the century, and perhaps much sooner than that. Water expands as it warms, and the oceans have lately received colossal quantities of melted ice. A recent study found that the oceans are absorbing heat 15 times faster than they have at any point during the past 10,000 years. Before the rising Pacific drowns these atolls, though, it will infiltrate, and irreversibly poison, their already inadequate supply of fresh water. The apocalypse could come even sooner for Kiribati if violent storms, of the sort that recently destroyed parts of the Philippines, strike its islands.

For all of these reasons, the 103,000 citizens of Kiribati may soon become refugees, perhaps the first mass movement of people fleeing the consequences of global warming rather than war or famine."
http://www.businessweek.com/article...climate-change-destroys-pacific-island-nation

Sucks to be these folks....imagine losing an entire country, being forced to watch it happen, and knowing you can't do a damn thing.

 

Previous to a major magnetic polar shift or wobble….. the amount of H2O being ADDED to the central region of Antarctica could continue to protect them…. and this could end up being an issue for their kids or grandchildren?????!!!!



http://www.habtheory.com/1/100.php

But that is a serious risk to take and I would advice consideration of purchasing shares in The Sahara Forest Project………

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/qatar.html

 

Miami and New Orleans especially vulnerable...

Rising sea level to sink US cities: study
Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - WET SOUTH: US cities, especially in Florida, ‘appear to be already lost’ as global warming is expected to cause sea levels to rise. The question is when, a study said

 

Which is why I am attempting to get even the Jerusalem Sanhedrin and Pope Francis and his flock to reconsider how much potential they have to address even this massive problem if.......... we will come to recognize the sheer brilliance on this statement given through Moses- Moshe on economics!


"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Are most of us in agreement that investment in turning deserts green could play a significant role in altering the economy and political atmosphere of the Middle East?

Do we recognize how desalinating a cubic kilometer of ocean water and adding it to the land in a nation with a lot of desert is really good news for the residents of New Orleans and Florida?

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=419320&page=8&p=1065450051#post1065450051

 

It's easy to see that humans and other living things are simply along for a geological ride! Whether it be global climate change, earthquakes, floods, hurricanes/tornadoes, volcanic eruption, tsunami's, extraterrestrial bombardment, etc. over the long haul, Earth's living creatures are going to be tested. Depending on the event(s), we will deal with myriad suffering to death. In the cases in which we know we can do something different to help mitigate the suffering and death, we should have a plan in place to at least do something rather than nothing. But...mankind is young and stupid and arrogant so we believe we can simply deal with whatever is thrown our way when it happens...

 

Sea level rise in the last year was more like 9 mm. That's a bit of acceleration from 3.3, eh?

http://www.aviso.oceanobs.com/en/data/products/ocean-indicators-products/mean-sea-level.html



To be fair, part of that is ENSO related. La Nina conditions make for more rain over land on a global scale, so that temporarily moves water from the oceans to the land, nudging down ocean levels. El Nino conditions do the reverse. So, a La Nino to El Nino transition results in an upward spike in sea levels.

However, just looking at the graph, you can see the last 5 years is above the 3.3 trend line. The sea level rise is accelerating. Before the global warming had set in, the sea level rise rate was decelerating.

 

what suffering and death?

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huh, where?

 

Guess you don't understand what happens when people don't eat, or don't have water, or don't have medical care, can't grow crops, when an earthquake buries them, when a tsunami takes away their house, when a hurricane devastates an area, when a tornado removes everything in sight, etc.

 

Yep, the alarmism spread to small governments that see a cash rainbow.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...wing-not-shrinking-due-to-climate-change.html

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Gosh, did these things just start happening?

 

Who cares when they happen? Fact is they happen and are going to happen in the future. Anything we can do to mitigate the pain and suffering and death, etc. should be considered in a timely fashion...

 

Well, if you are not interested in what has happened in the past then everything that happens in the future can leave you in fearful wonder.

 

simply fantastic.

 

Those who dwell on the past are wasting their lives on nonsense. The only thing the past provides us is a diary of what has happened. We can't do anything about the past, can't change the past, and can't even do anything about the present. The only place we can effect change is in the future! Therefore, we must theorize what might be in our future and either be proactive or reactive...what we decide is based on how large the impacts might be to the nation, the economy, our security, the citizenry, etc. And if the potential picture is unpleasant or ugly and we choose to be proactive, then ALL viable options are on the table

 

IMO the only way most people will ever care about a crab in Antarctica is if that crab attached itself to their face and went into death-grip mode. Seems to me many people today simply don't care about most things unless it slaps them across the face. It's the old out-of-sight-out-of-mind scenario. I guess this is an ignorance in which many of us simply cannot think beyond our own self-serving spheres? For many explanations today I refer to what I call the 5% rule, and what this means is IMO about 5% of humans care about things outside of their sphere while 95% do not. And I generally believe the 5% comprises basically the same people no matter the issues. So...regarding global climate change, and all other issues, I think the $64,000 question is how can we reach the 95%? Until we can reach the 95%, mankind will remain in full reactive mode...

 

Although there are many issues with sea level rise, one I like to focus on is what I call 'affordable transition' or in other words 'who is going to pay for it?'.

Most all local governments are living tax dollar to tax dollar and we know the federal government is deep in debt with continued deficit spending...yet all of these governments need to 'pay the way' whether it is reactive or proactive. How can they 'pay the way' when they don't have any money? Hello Boston taxpayers...we need to start collecting an additional 10% tax on all consumption in order to relocate the city away from the ocean...taxpayers will of course refuse and kill the politicians.

I've read that sea walls won't work so what to do? In the past 10-15 years, and continuing today, my guess is the Gulf of Mexico and east coast up to Virginia, within 10-20 miles of the coastline, is the fastest growing areas of the US. And during this 10-15 years all US governments have known about sea level rise and more intense storm potential yet we are building on every square inch of land along the ocean! IMO there is little sign that any government level gives a crap about climate change potential.

So, I watch stuff like east coast development and then read about crabs in the Antarctica and Boston under water and I wonder who really cares...

 

My city is 2200 feet above sea level. I thought ahead. I don't want to spend a dime of my money.

Signed: A conservative.

 

Well, let's avoid that!

You say it's accelerating eh?

If you say it's "accelerating" then that would mean its rising faster in the short term that it was in the longer term.

So, how much have the oceans risen in the last 20,000 years? You might as well start there as this was the last glacial maximum and the oceans were 400 feet lower than current levels, and that is about as low as the ocean goes.

So 20,000 years ago, the oceans were at their natural low. And when you are at one end of a range, what do you expect to happen next? Why yes of course, you would expect to begin progress toward the other end of the range, and that is exactly what we find.

They have been rising for a very long time, what is the natural high point for oceans? Well it appears that oceans, all on their own, can 900 feet beyond where they are today. And viewing the graph below, would you agree that the oceans are currently well below their 500 million year average? And if we are well below our 500 million year average, knowing how natural cycles always revert to mean, would we not expect the oceans to be, in fact, rising today? Why yes, of course we would.

And since the oceans have been rising for 20,000 years, should we be completely unsurprised that they are rising today? Why yes, unsurprised is the perfectly reasonable response.

Now for "accelerated" ocean rise. 400 feet = 4800 inches. 4800/20,000 years equals a 1/4 inch a year. That is the average ocean rise over twenty thousand years. Clearly no "cherry picking" there. So now for current sea level rise, let's use satellite measurements, which go back to 2003, and what do we find? Sea levels are only rising by an 1/8th of an inch a year, or half their longer term rate.

Isn't 1/4 inch in the long term and an 1/8th inch in the short term, pretty much the classic example of your ordinary every day deceleration?

 

The faithful also don't realize how hard it really is to measure sea level. Oceans are not static but slosh in their basins like milk in a cereal bowl and vary widely in all locations.

 

That is why I chose satellite measurement over tidal gauge measures. They shouldn't be impacted by glacioisostasy, though certainly a tidal gauge is.