Sen. Tim Kaine: "The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody. We created it."

And it's endorsed in the Bible, old and new testament. No wonder American Christians were just fine with it for so long.

 

What areas of the world at the time the Bible was written did not have slavery?

 

So how are they getting counted as single mothers?

 

Good question, but irrelevant.

 

it’s like talking to a brick wall... people aren’t being counted if they don’t answer. there likely is many more who don’t

 

its "than" not "then" and its also "there" not "their" so next time you want to question my wisdom please get a rudimentary grasp of this tongue we call english and no, idont hate my self. play your position.

 

Muslim, African, Asian what group of peoples didn't engage in slavery in their past? Again Africans enslaved Africans, the European just bought them as slave, so stop blaming it on white Europeans. Even without the European trade in slaves Africans STILL would have been enslaving Africans so are you ready to get rid of all vestiges of Africa here?

 

Egypt was a mix with Caucasian Eqyptians. Blacks were mainly Sub-Saharan and that is where the European slave trade occurred.

 

agreed, egypt was caucasianized when the romans and greeks invaded, grate piece of totally irrelevant factoids bro.

 

As I said.

The state when they apply for TANF for instance as I have shown twice now. Why are you once again refusing to answer what is asked?

Why do they do that and not report that they live together in a two parent household? It doesn't require they be married.

 

yes but White Jewish Europeans and White Christian Europeans invented the race based chattel system. lmao really bro, i dont pity you, for real, its merely a pitiful education system in america thats to blame. lets get it bro, me and you, we can right these wrong interpretations.

 

Ahhh actually no they didn't, why would they go to the party that had fought them for decades and finally beat them? They were voted out or died. The only KKK remains a Democrat until he retired.

 

I have been perfectly clear in what I said, address it.

 

And that makes them worse that the Arabs who had been active the Indian Ocean slave trade for centuries prior to this how?

 

Slavery drove the sugar, tobacco and cotton industries in the new world. These were valuable inputs for the industrial revolution but they were not by any means essential. European mills could and did process vast amounts of wool and linen and other fabrics. Same for sugar cane, very valuable but there were other sources of sugar available e.g. beets. Tobacco ? a luxury drug. None of them key inputs essential to Europe's industrialization. The key inputs were iron & steel, coal, factory labor and critically a newly developed financial/banking system that allowed capital to be invested in a new and growing stock market. None of these inputs were driven by African slave labor to any significant degree. However once the revolution was under way demand for slave produced raw materials expanded. First industrialization - then demand for raw materials.

Had the trans transatlantic slave trade never occurred and none of the raw materials I named above ever been planted in North America on a commercial scale the industrial revolution would still have powered along albeit on a different trajectory. To claim otherwise is to put the cart before the horse.

 

Well if you wont address a direct question and clarify what exactly you do mean by your previous comments regarding the significance of the European slave trade (vs other slave trades) how is anyone supposed to work out what it is you are trying to say?

 

it was american christians that lead then abolishonship movement and the civil rights movement.

 

And it was American Christians who opposed those things, too.

 

Some historians say yes and others say no. Believe what you want.

 

nah those were whites racist dems

 

Apparently black on black crime and black on black slavery is just peachy with lefties.

 

if you say so

 

banks were key you say..iagree

Barclays Bank
Barclays traces its history back to two goldsmith bankers in London in 1690. The name of one of its 250 predecessors gives a clear indication of its role in the British empire: the Colonial Bank finally merged with Barclays in 1925. Two managers, a subscriber and three directors are named on the UCL database as having been involved in the slave trade or received slave compensation.

A Barclays spokesman said: “The history of Barclays, like other institutions, is being examined following recent events. We can’t change what’s gone before us, only how we go forward. We are committed as a bank to do more to further foster our culture of inclusiveness, equality and diversity, for our colleagues, and the customers and clients we serve.”

HSBC
HSBC was founded in 1865 to finance trade between Europe and Asia, but its 1992 merger with the UK’s Midland Bank gives it earlier roots. Those include the London Joint Stock Bank, whose first manager, George Pollard, shared £2,416 (more than £230,000 today) in compensation for giving up 134 enslaved people in Nevis.

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A spokeswoman said: “HSBC has operated across the globe for over 150 years and is fully committed to driving a diverse and inclusive culture. We are committed to learning from the past and, in particular, anything that would be inconsistent with our values today. HSBC has zero tolerance towards racial discrimination, or any other type of discrimination.”

Lloyds Banking Group
For its first 100 years Lloyds Bank operated from just one office in Birmingham. However, in the 1860s it embarked on a period of rapid expansion. John White Cater, a director of one of the rivals it acquired, received compensation for five estates that enslaved 80 people at the time of abolition. Eight former companies associated with Lloyds have links to claimants or beneficiaries in the UCL database,.

A Lloyds spokeswoman said: “A lot has changed during the 300-year history of our brands and while we have much within our heritage to be proud of, we can’t be proud of it all. We stand against racism, slavery and discrimination in all its forms and truly believe that by reflecting, understanding, promoting and valuing the diversity of our colleagues, we will deliver better results. We can do more, we can do better and we will do it together.”

Lloyd’s of London
The insurance market started in a coffee house more than 330 years ago. By the 1730s it was dominating shipping insurance around the world, and playing a key role in the UK’s empire building. That meant it was also intimately involved in the slave trade. Simon Fraser, a founder subscriber member of Lloyd’s, held at least 162 people in slavery and was paid the equivalent of nearly £400,000 for ceding a plantation in Dominica. Descendants of slaves brought action for reparations against Lloyd’s in 2004.

Lloyd’s of London said the slave trade was “an appalling and shameful period of English history, as well as our own, and we condemn the indefensible wrongdoing that occurred during this period”. It now plans to provide cash help to organisations that support BAME groups and “invest in positive programmes to attract, retain and develop black and minority ethnic talent”.

Arbuthnot Latham
Both of the private bank’s founders, Alfred Latham and James Alves Arbuthnot, were linked to the slave trade. Latham received compensation after the 1833 abolition of slavery, co-founding the bank in the same year. The bank grew into a major funder of Britain’s colonial exploits, including Cecil Rhodes’s gold fields in South Africa.

A spokesman said: “Arbuthnot Latham stands against racism and discrimination in all forms, and is committed to diversity across the bank.”

 

iron working was key you say..iagree. the iron works of england, where the innovations happened were funded by a slaver.

 

idont like to state the obvious all the time as its better for ppl to figure it out themselves, that way they will feel they have achieved something themselves. you figured it out, no need for my confirmation. the question you need to now ask yourself is why you dont feel the same way as me. that is not my problem.